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Subject: [alt.binaries.nude.celebrities.female] Frequently Asked Questions
This article was archived around: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:58:40 -0600
Last Modified: April, 2002
Frequently Asked Questions
ABOUT THIS FAQ
Alt.binaries.nude.celebrities.female (ABNCF) was originally formed as
a binaries newsgroup for the posting and sharing of nude female
celebrity pictures. The Charter for this group was simple and to the
point and read in essence, "Nude pictures of female celebrities."
ABNCF is an unmoderated newsgroup so it fell upon the subscribers to
police themselves as to what was deemed appropriate for posting there.
Therefore, in August, 1999, a group of concerned regular users,
finding the Charter "description" overly simplistic and noticing a
marked increase in the amount of spam posts being perpetuated in the
newsgroup, decided to form a Committee to formulate and author a
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) document. This FAQ would attempt to
reflect the wants and desires of the ABNCF community by regularly
gathering and incorporating subscriber feedback into the document. By
September 1999, after a number of discussions, rewrites, and
revisions, along with feedback from the newsgroup users, the Committee
came up with essentially the same document you are now reading. The
entire FAQ was posted to the newsgroup and an Internet polling site
was used to gather votes from concerned subscribers. To make a long
story short, the document was accepted by popular vote and became the
"official" FAQ for ABNCF.
In October 2000, a new vote was taken. This vote was to officially
change the Charter of ABNCF and direct news administrators directly to
this FAQ as the governing document for what is considered on- and
off-topic in the newsgroup. This referendum and new Charter was
overwhelmingly passed by the readership and is as follows:
"alt.binaries.nude.celebrities.female is a newsgroup dedicated to and
for the posting of binary files regarding pictures and multimedia
clips (i.e. videos) of nude Nationally and Internationally known
female celebrities. All questions regarding definitions of on- and
off-topic posts, and other general information about what are
considered acceptable posting practices can be found in the ABNCF
Frequently Asked Questions document (FAQ), which is posted
periodically in the newsgroup and continuously at the ABNCF FAQ
First and foremost here, it should be made clear that this FAQ is not
"written in stone." It's original purpose remains -- to be reflective
of the ABNCF community at large and the desires of its subscribers,
both new and old. It is a list of how-to's, guidelines, rules, and
regulations meant to facilitate everyone's enjoyment of the newsgroup.
It is also intended to be revised periodically, as the subscriber base
changes, to continue to mirror the will of the users.
This FAQ deals primarily with the types of binary posts that are
considered on- and off-topic by the majority of users in ABNCF,
including details on what is considered "nude" and who is determined
to be a "celebrity." It also includes short sections on basic Usenet
behavior (i.e. "netiquette") and what you, as an individual, can do
about spam posts. Further information can also be found on the FAQ
website at http://www.freecoolpages.com/thehangout/abncf and
http://www.abncf.coolfreepages.com . (It should be noted here that
since ABNCF does not have a ".d," or discussion group, it is likely
that discussions will take place within the newsgroup itself in spite
of the binary nature of the group. In fact, talks concerning ABNCF
business -- especially this FAQ -- are encouraged.)
Feedback is more than welcome. As stated earlier, the primary purpose
of this document is to reflect your desires. If you have something to
contribute, please post your comments as a response to this post in
the newsgroup, or email the Committee at
Though no specific software is recommended in this FAQ, many of the
tools used for posting and decoding files can be obtained from major
software archives, such as http://www.tucows.com,
http://www.macorchard.com, http://downloads-zdnet.com.com or
http://download.com.com. Rather than repeat these URLs throughout,
they are indicated by "archive sites." You can ask in the newsgroup
about where to obtain a particular program, but software is never
posted in ABNCF.
Hope this helps!!! Have fun, and see you in the group.
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I. USENET BASICS
A. Netiquette in Newsgroups
B. Flames and Trolls
C. Spam and Scams
D. The Myth of Anonymity
II. ABOUT ABNCF
A. What Is ABNCF
B. Frequently Asked Questions
A. The Posts Explained
B. Decoding and Playing Multiple-Part Files
A. Posting Questions, Answers, Comments, Requests
B. Posting Binaries and Pictures in ABNCF
C. Commercial Posts and Advertising
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I. USENET BASICS
A. Netiquette in Newsgroups
Recurring themes across all binaries newsgroups:
1. LOOK FOR A FAQ before you post even a single question. In most
newsgroups that provide them, the FAQ is posted only about twice a
month, so. This FAQ is posted weekly and can also be found at the
website mentioned above.
2. LURK AND LEECH for at least a few weeks before posting anything,
including questions. Find out what's welcome or taboo first. Observing
awhile will also help you avoid the mistake of duplicating very recent
or tired posts by rushing to contribute without knowing the group's
3. Learn how to use your computer, software and basic Internet tools
like search engines. While others are willing to help out, don't
expect to be spoon-fed. Even if you're not a newbie, you can get up to
speed on any area of the Net that is new ground to you with these free
· On the Web, start with: http://www.newbie.net (to really learn just
how much you know, take the clueless newbie self test);
http://www.newbie-u.com; http://www.netlingo.com; read your ISP's
(Internet Service Provider) FAQ's.
· In Usenet: news.answers and alt.answers (a huge number of FAQ's are
available in both). Also, find out if your provider hosts any "local"
newsgroups for members needing tech help.
· Once you feel you are ready, you may wish to test your posting
software to make sure that your posts are making it to Usenet. We
suggest alt.binaries.test, a newsgroup specifically set up for new
posters to try their hands at posting binaries.
4. DON'T SHOUT unless you mean it, and then you better be right, eh?
In posts and email, THIS IS SHOUTING. Turn off that caps lock.
5. CONSERVE BANDWIDTH, loosely defined as the amount of information
that can flow through a channel. All Usenet resources are limited. The
ever-increasing demands on news servers have led to tons of lost
posts, shorter retention times and dropped newsgroups. Wasting
bandwidth is the Usenet equivalent of littering -- there's really no
excuse for it and it hurts the whole community, especially in terms of
allocating resources. Bandwidth wasters are:
· Reposting files that are still on the servers.
· Off-topic posts.
· Posting more than the readers can reasonably download, which leads
to requests for reposts.
· Posting questions when the answers are already right in front of
· Multiple, simultaneous posts of the same request.
· "Me too" posts (well... unless it's fan mail <g>).
· Excessive cross-posting, especially to groups that would consider
your posts as off-topic.
· Flame wars. Take it to email or shut up. Your opinion doesn't need
to be on thousands of servers worldwide.
· Trolling, which leads to spamming (see below).
· Ridiculously long signatures.
· HTML attachments, especially for signatures or simple text messages.
B. Flames and Trolls
Unfortunately, as in any society, there is a certain element that
seems to delight in causing discord and disturbance within an
otherwise peaceful newsgroup. These posters are usually known by the
term, "trolls." The Jargon Dictionary (http://www.netmeg.net/jargon)
defines troll as follows:
"troll v.,n. 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a
posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames;
or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies"
which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in
which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The
well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and
flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already
do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it
is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get
to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically trolls
in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal
attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other
purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are
recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning
about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like
the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming
characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of
life on the net, as in, 'Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.'"
The Jargon Dictionary also defines the term, "flame bait" as, "A
posting intended to trigger a flame war, or one that invites flames in
reply. See also troll."
There are generally three kinds of trolls:
1. The "stand alone" troll usually aimed at a certain individual or
group of individuals or even the newsgroup at large. This form of
troll is usually characterized by insults, cursing, and a general
attitude of disdain towards the person or persons for which it is
intended. An actual troll message typically has a subject line
designed to inflame members of the group. For example, "You people are
all dried dingleberries on a moose's arse." The content of the message
is usually more of the same, or thinly veiled "arguments" that are
really just another excuse to hurl insults. These messages are
obviously designed to garner similar responses from angry subscribers
and thus start a "flame war" (see below).
2. The second form can be a response or reply to the original troll by
another troll acknowledging or agreeing with the first. There can be
one, two, three, or more such replies making the trolling seem as if
it is a team effort.
3. The third form of troll is often in response to a legitimate
opinion an a particular topic. The general tone is usually the same as
those above but disguised as a differing opinion designed to hide what
it really is -- flame bait (see above).
In all three cases the principal aim is to disrupt the group and cause
an unnecessary disturbance. In short, it is simple vindictiveness and
extremely poor netiquette. Although most ISPs and news servers frown
upon this type of behavior and sometimes will treat it in the same
manner as they treat any spam post (see below), the best response to a
troll or flame post is no response at all. Since in most cases the
troll or flamer is only attempting to garner similar replies, the most
effective form of defense is to simply ignore the post as if it never
existed. In short, never, ever respond or reply to such a post,
politely or otherwise. You are only giving the poster what they want
-- an excuse to continue their derisive behavior.
The difference between a "flame" and a "troll" can be a fine line but
it is also a distinctive one.
Netlingo (http://www.netlingo.com) defines a "flame" as, "To send
nasty or insulting messages, usually in response to someone's having
broken the rules of netiquette," and a "flame war" as, "When an online
discussion degenerates into a series of personal attacks against the
debaters, rather than discussion of their positions. A heated
Flame wars are certainly not in keeping with the ethics of Usenet in
general and ABNCF in particular. This is not to say that differences
of opinion are unacceptable. Merely that if you can't state your
opinion(s) in a rational, reasonable way, then keep your mouth shut
or, as is said elsewhere in this document, take it to email.
There is also no excuse for unnecessary flaming of another user simply
because that user is ignorant of certain Usenet protocols or the
contents of this FAQ. A polite reference to this document or a gentle
reminder about Usenet rules of Netiquette will go much further to
garner goodwill and maintain amiable feelings within the newsgroup. As
a matter of fact, there is generally no excuse for flaming at all as
it will inevitably deteriorate into a flame war which in turn will
result in hard feelings between users and disrupt the flow of the
C. Spam and Scams
You may be surprised to learn that many people believe that responding
to spam makes you a spammer, too. Besides, you really don't think
those mass advertisers are actually reading the newsgroups, do you?
Replying to their posts is the equivalent of talking back to a
recording on the telephone. There's no need to post a spam alert,
either, unless the spam is particularly obscure. Anyone with a few
hours of Usenet experience can recognize it as well as you can.
Another type of spam is an off-topic discussion that just won't die
out, especially if YOU perpetuate it. These sometimes start with a
troll (see above).
If you're interested in fighting spam, learn what you can do about it
by reading news.admin.net-abuse.usenet and by searching for "antispam"
on the web or in DejaNews, an archive for Usenet posts
(http://www.dejanews.com). Sending emails of complaint to the
spammers' news server is another alternative. Learning how to read the
header information in the Usenet message is necessary in order to do
this. Some headers will actually tell you where to send your complaint
in the form of: X-Complaints-To: abuse@<server>.com. Many, however, do
not, and will require tracking software or assistance from an on-line
site such as http://www.paladincorp.com.au/spam.html, and
http://www.spinnerbaker.com/despamr.htm. Two good resources for
tracking spammers may be found at http://samspade.org and
http://spamcop.net/, the latter of which will even send your complaint
for you. In either case, the line in the header which will direct you
to the source should read "NNTP-Posting-Host:" followed by a series of
numbers or characters. Typing this information into the appropriate
spaces of your tracking software or tracking site should give you the
name of the server where the message originated and, in many cases,
email addresses where you can send your complaint.
For more information on what you can do about spam,
http://spam.abuse.net has a number of links and suggestions as well as
a short tutorial on how to report spam abuse.
If you want more info on the nature of spam,
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1 is an
D. The Myth of Anonymity
Everyone on Usenet needs to know some basics about Internet Anonymity.
For the most part, it doesn't exist. Most nics you see here are not
Anonymous and with tracking software anyone can figure out WHO you
There's enough information in the headers of your posts for virtually
anyone to identify you (just as you can identify a spammer), even if
you use a fake name and email address.
You'd be amazed at how cooperative your ISP (Internet Service
Provider) can be about closing an account or sharing information with
law enforcement agencies. They'd rather lose your small fee than
harbor a criminal or troublemaker. In Usenet, behave like you're in a
public place because you are.
In spite of the above, since the "information superhighway" is public,
you will encounter the same type of population mix you'd meet in any
busy city, including con artists, thieves and psychopaths. You'd be
wise to keep your real identity out of Usenet. No need to make it easy
for them. A false email address is a good way as well to avoid being
besieged by the tons of junk email that is propagated throughout the
II. ABOUT ABNCF
A. ABNCF is several things:
1. It's a binaries and pictures newsgroup providing nude and semi-nude
(see questions) videos (AVI, MPG, etc.), scans and captures (mostly
JPG) of celebrities and well-known personalities (see questions).
2. A few of the posts are original scans and captures, but most are
pictures and videos downloaded from the Internet and posted BY
collectors FOR collectors.
3. With few exceptions, ABNCF cappers and posters are NOT associated
with commercial web sites or video vendors. They volunteer their own
time and effort to post the files you download. Download what you like
and pass up what you don't like or can't view.
4. Since the posts are free and voluntary, you the downloader have an
obligation to fulfill your part of the transaction. If your current
news server is inadequate, that means subscribing to a better one or
being satisfied with what you get. It also means acquiring the skills
and software you need to view the material the way it is offered, "as
5. If your system is not compatible with some of the videos posted
here, please don't whine to the contributors. Usually, a simple
question to the group can direct you toward software and methods for
upgrading your system. Upgrade, or pass up what you can't use or,
better yet, store it for the day you can. Some of the posts (e.g. some
videos) here may be too advanced for your current system, but there's
usually something available for everyone. An excellent source for
finding various software and information is
alt.binaries.multimedia.utilities or their discussion group,
6. This newsgroup is about and for the posting of celebrity pictures.
It has a Zero Tolerance Policy for Child Pornography of any type. We
recognize, however, that there is a significant difference in the
national laws governing this matter. More to the point there is a vast
difference between sexploitaion films and films such as Pretty Baby,
The Tin Drum and others of similar caliber. You should use common
sense and good judgment when posting pictures of younger stars.
B. Okay, any questions?
Q: Who qualifies as a celebrity at ABNCF?
A: Any personality who is generally well-known in the fields of
entertainment, sports, television, and the print media, including, but
not necessarily limited to, actresses, supermodels, female athletes,
and other female personalities who can be readily recognized by the
public at large. (For example, Monica Lewinski and Queen Elizabeth are
celebrities even though neither have ever intentionally entertained
us, while "Mary Feelgood," the newsgirl in Bumstead, IL is NOT because
she is not generally know to the public outside of that city.) Since
ABNCF is read by a number of users outside the USA, this may also
include women who have gained celebrity status in other parts of the
world but may not, as yet, have gained fame in the United States. It
should be also noted here that as the title of this newsgroup implies,
only FEMALE celebrities should be posted here (unless, of course, you
want to be flamed to within an inch of your life).
Q: Well, what about my favorite porn stars?
A: ABNCF is not a forum for the posting of hard core pornography, a
multitude of groups exist for that purpose. Preferences here in this
group run to more mainstream celebrities. If you want to post the more
notorious variety kindly honor them in a venue more appropriate to
Q: All right, then...what about Playboy Playmates or similar models?
A: Playmates and similar models who have also achieved celebrity
through a separate, unrelated, public medium such as movies and
television (i.e. Pamela Anderson and Jenny McCarthy) are certainly
welcomed and encouraged, as are scans from Playboy's "Sex in Cinema"
or other media-related features. What we wish to avoid here is a
compendium (or flood) of models whose only claim to fame is one or two
issues of a magazine or ownership of a wwweb site.
Q: Can I post fake nudes of celebrities?
A: The posting of fakes/parodies & caricatures in ABNCF is generally
off-topic. There are other newsgroups dedicated to celebrity fakes.
You would be better served to post them there. The only exceptions to
this rule are posts requesting information regarding a suspected fake,
and informative posts regarding fakes being posted as real.
Q: Ok, then...What constitutes a "nude" or "semi-nude" post?
A: "Nude," of course, is pretty self-explanatory. For the purposes of
ABNCF, the term "semi-nude" can be seen to encompass topless shots,
so-called "see-throughs," "nipple-slips" or "oops" pictures, and shots
that, though technically nude, may not actually "show" anything, such
as a shot of a celebrity with her arms folded across her breasts.
Q: But what if I have an especially sexy pic of a celebrity and it
doesn't meet the criteria above?
A: If a picture is exceedingly sexy, sensuous, or erotic there is
usually no objection to it being posted as long as some sort of
notification is made in the subject line. Generally, some notification
like the letters "NN" (non-nude) is required. In posts of one, or just
a few, articles at one time the non-nude notification is required for
each article. If a number of pictures are being posted at once (more
than 10 or so) the inclusion of indices (or indexes) is required in
order to allow the users to preview your posts and bypass any
non-nudes they wish to skip downloading. When indexed, the non-nude
notification on each article within multi-article posts may be
excluded in only those cases where it is included in the text of index
posts, or at least the 0/1 index post. If such notification is not
made, each subject line of the post must contain the non-nude
Most non-nude pictures, such as head shots or so-called "glam" shots
are off-topic, as are non-nude pics of an otherwise sexy celebrity.
Exceptions to the above shall include bikini, see-thru, or otherwise
revealing pics when the non-nude notification is included, or if they
are included within a larger post containing a preponderance of nude
pics which otherwise meets the (NN) requirements stated above. Another
exception would be in order to preserve a series from a particular
imaging artist which may include some non-nude or facial shots, but
which otherwise qualifies herein as nude. Nevertheless, the non-nude
notification must be included.
Q: Is ABNCF moderated?
A: No, and it's not practical or ultimately desirable to do so. While
there is not an official hierarchy in ABNCF, the users themselves
monitor the group and group ethic solely for the purpose of reporting
Q: Then who runs ABNCF?
A: Technically, no one, although as mentioned above, there's a
good-sized group of contributors and readers who safeguard it through
both individual and united efforts.
Q: Well, then what's with all the rules?
A: Every society has rules. A newsgroup is a society. These rules are
based on the group ethic and etiquette which have evolved, and
continue to evolve, to serve the group's needs and desires.
Like any place that people gather for a specific purpose, there must
be rules for things to proceed the way they are intended with the
least amount of troubles. These rules represent what ABNCF members
wish to see in their group.
Violating them will result in complaints being sent to your ISP/News
provider, which can cause you to lose your internet access, news
access, or both. All providers (internet or news) have a terms of
service (TOS), or authorized use policy (AUP), and they ALL forbid
posting to newsgroups off-topic or in violation of the group's
Most if not all ISP's and news providers also consider trolling
against their TOS/AUP, since they consider it to be disruptive to the
normal flow of conversation in the newsgroup. A group survives or dies
based upon two things; its contributors and its lurkers. The intent of
this FAQ is to nurture both groups and keep ABNCF alive and growing,
so that all members can continue to get what they came for.
A. The Posts Explained
Q: What do those fractions in the subject header mean?
A: Large binaries need to be split up into multiple, linked parts for
posting. The fractions indicate the part number. For instance 5/32 is
part 5 of a 32-part file. You need all 32 parts available on your
server to successfully download the video. Pictures (i.e. JPG) will be
followed by the fraction 1/1.
Q: What's a 0/n (or 0/XX or 00) part and is it important?
A: That's the beginning of the multipart post where the contributor
includes a text message or preview pic of the video for you. News
flash for posters and AOL members: There's now an option in the AOL
newsreader to filter out all text messages in binaries groups.
Unfortunately, the part 0/n posts are also filtered out.
Q: I downloaded a video but all I see is a bunch of jumbled text on my
screen. Where's the video?
A: That jumbled text IS the video, encoded into ASCII for posting to
Usenet. If each line begins with an M, it's UUencoded. If not, chances
are it's MIME base 64 encoded. How to handle each is explained a bit
in the next section.
B. Decoding and Playing Multiple Part Files
The quickest and easiest way of decoding a multiple part video (AVI,
MPG, etc.) is to get yourself a good newsreader and let that do the
work for you. The only other option, which is cumbersome at best, and
a real pain in the butt, is to download each section separately as a
text file and then find a graphics program that has the capability of
decoding the parts into a whole. For more information on decoding and
playing multiple part files, we suggest reading the ABME
(alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica) FAQ which can be found at the FAQ
host site, http://extra.newsguy.com/~theprof/Abmefaq.txt which has an
excellent section regarding multiple part files. In addition, you can
also try http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/home.htm, another fine site
for info on decoding and playing these files.
A. Posting Questions, Answers, Comments, Requests
Q: Help! Why can't I get these files to work?
A: When you ask for help, please provide enough information so someone
CAN help you. At a minimum give your OS type (Win95, Win 3.1, Mac,
etc.), your CPU (Pentium, 486, etc.), the newsreader you are using, a
description of your problem (uploading, downloading, decoding,
viewing), and the specific file you are having trouble with. The more
information you give, the better the chances someone can provide you
with an answer. Sometimes a question goes unanswered because the
person didn't provide enough information or because we don't know the
answer. It happens! Sometimes it's because the question should have
been directed elsewhere, such as to a software or hardware vendor, or
B. Posting Binaries and Pictures in ABNCF
Q: How do I post videos and pictures?
A: Videos and pictures (binaries) are usually posted to Usenet
binaries groups using the UUencode process, although occasionally
(though rarely) you may find some files using the MIMEbase64 process.
Good posting software can be found at most of the sites listed at the
beginning of this FAQ (archive sites) and throughout the Internet.
Since everyone has their personal favorites, if you're not sure which
to choose, it is very likely that a simple question to the group will
bring you more than enough choices.
Q: Okay, but suppose newer methods of encoding come along. Can I use
those in ABNCF, or am I limited to posting files in UUencode and/or
A: No particular encoding method is required in ABNCF. However, when
posting files encoded using methods other than UUencode or MIME, some
notification of this fact must be included in the Subject: line of
each article posted. This notification is required in order to allow
newsgroup members who do not wish to utilize other encoding methods to
bypass the posts.
Q: Do I really have to post an index with my pictures?
A: Index files are required when posting 10 or more pictures, and must
be named in a fashion which differentiates them from the bulk of the
post. By posting an index you are allowing the user to preview what
you have posted, and to bypass the files he doesn't want to download.
Software for the creation of thumbnails and index files may be found
at many of the archive sites listed above.
Q: When posting video files do I need to post a preview?
A: If the video file is 1 MB or more, at least one image capture
indicative of the content of the file should be posted in conjunction
with the video. This preview image must be named in such a fashion as
to clearly identify it as such, and must be in either .jpg or .gif
format. If for some reason an image capture fitting the above
description is unavailable to the poster a text file must be posted in
conjunction with the video file, and must at a minimum include the
length of the clip, the name of the source material (i.e. movie,
television show, etc.) and, if they are not included in the Subject
header, the name(s) of the actress(es) appearing in the video file.
By posting a preview of the video you are allowing other users to
bypass the files they don't want. Software for the creation of image
captures may be found at many of the archive sites listed elsewhere in
As with posts containing picture files, the NN qualifier must be
placed in the Subject line if it is appropriate.
Q: What's the best size for individual video parts?
A: Somewhere around 6500 to 7500 lines (approximately 400-470KB) seem
to work best. Any larger and parts may get dropped. Any smaller and
there would be too many individual articles, which contributes to
clogging up the servers. Of course, ultimately it is up to you to
decide what best suits your tastes. There have been posts with line
counts as high as 10,000. It all depends on your personal preference.
Q: Are there any limits to how much I can post in one day?
Yes, and the limits are pretty simple; 150 articles or 20 MB of data,
whichever is first realized, is the maximum allowable posting rate for
any 24-hour period. No exceptions. It's the responsibility of the
poster to conform larger posts to meet these limits.
Everything posted in ABNCF pushes other ABNCF articles off of servers
all over the world. This limit is imposed to prohibit one or two
posters from hogging the limited available bandwidth, and to give the
average group user time to download what they want (not just your
posts), and keep current.
Either regular or blatant violations of the posting limit will be
considered flooding the newsgroup. You will be reported to your ISP
and/or internet host(s) for it.
C. Commercial Posts and Advertising
Q: What is the ABNCF stance on advertising?
A: Since most of what is normally considered to be spam can also be
considered advertising, and since most sysadmins have pretty rigid
guidelines to which they must conform when acting on spam complaints,
merely advertising in ABNCF is NOT considered spam per se. HOWEVER,
all advertising in ABNCF MUST conform to the rules contained in the
ABNCF FAQ/Charter or it will be considered off-topic, and complaints
may be filed on that basis.
ABNCF has many valued commercial posters who advertise along with
their contributions to the newsgroup. ABNCF also has many posters who
want to alert other group members to on-topic information on the
internet. Therefore, in the interest of promoting newsgroup growth and
variety advertising is accepted in the group provided it conforms to
very stringent guidelines.
Posts containing advertising are welcome and on-topic ONLY if the site
or product they advertise is on-topic, or contains on-topic sections,
AND the posts also each contain an on-topic binary file which is
representative of the end-user files on the advertised website (no
thumbnails, no banners, etc.). However, in instances where a poster
having no interest or affiliation with the advertised site or product
makes the occasional, informational post the requirement for a binary
file is waived. Such posts, however, must have some relevance to the
In any case, all advertising by a poster must be limited to about 5
lines of text in the body of the post, and may not appear in the
Subject: line, on the decoded binary file, or in the filename of any
attachments. For these purposes, advertising is defined as any
description of the site or product being advertised, including URLs.
Posts which contain advertising in violation of the rules contained in
the FAQ/Charter are off-topic and violate most ISP and posting host's
TOS/AUP documents on that basis. Complaints about such posts should be
addressed as being off-topic, rather than as being spam posts.
Q: I have lots of good pics I'd like to post, but they have
advertising of one sort or another on them. Is it OK to post these?
A: Well, that depends on your motivation. If you are just posting
files you have for the purpose of on-topic participation in the
newsgroup, you may post such files without worry. It is an unfortunate
but widely accepted fact that many of the more readily available
picture files available on the internet have been corrupted by some
advertiser somewhere. As most users expand their collections they
generally replace such pictures with better, clean ones. However,
posting binary files which have been altered by the inclusion of
advertising by the poster are another matter. Binary files containing
advertising in their code, including HTML redirect code, are off-topic
if the poster has any relationship, either fiduciary, fiscal, or
personal, with the site or product advertised. In plain language, that
means if your post contains pics which have been changed to contain
advertisement of any sort which benefits either you or someone you
work for, your post is off-topic.
Readers, please don't encourage Usenet abuse by patronizing spammers'
Hope you have gotten something out of this FAQ about how ABNCF works
and some of what is expected here. For those of you who consider this
to be a bunch of useless, pain in the ass rules, or who feel that you
have a right to do anything you wish here, consider what one of our
long-standing members recently wrote:
"Newsgroups are NOT a 'right' at all. There is no basis to claim that
preventing one person's usage/posting is 'CENSORSHIP' at all. Spam is
expressly forbidden by the newsservers who propagate our articles.
Spammers are violating this policy. Preventing a spammer from posting
by turning him in is NOT censorship."
The same can be said about off-topic posting, unnecessary flaming of a
fellow user, and a failure to cooperate with the community in which
you have entered. USENET IS a community and as such, we need to
conduct ourselves in the same way as we would in any other community.
That is, with respect and politeness for our fellow users.
ABNCF tries to keep the atmosphere fun and amenable for all who wish
to enter here and share pictures of the ladies we all enjoy so much.
In closing, we would like to extend a special thanks to everyone who
expended their time, effort, and assistance in putting this FAQ
And thanks to you for reading it!!