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Subject: rec.music.progressive Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 5/8

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ftp://ftp.kime.org.uk/RMP The Web versions are available at: http://www.kime.org.uk/PK/rmp_faqs.html All mail addresses have been anti-spammed by replacing "@" with " AT ". Please put the "@" back in order to use the email addresses. This is necessary, unfortunately, since I know that my spam levels have rocketed since spamming started in earnest. Newsgroup names should be news: URLs so you can read any newsgroup mentioned here by clicking them (again, providing your browser supports them). Also, some names are links to the Web pages of individuals. This file may be freely distributed as long as it is not modified in any way and contains this notice. *Please Note:* All ftp, and web addresses are given in standard URL format. If you are not familiar with this then read this short explanation. Simple URL format looks like this: ftp://*some.network.address*/some/path/ A URL as given above can be entered as it is into any Web browser. If you intend to use standard ftp, the starred part should be used as the address of the machine to which you should connect and the immediately following section as the directory to look in when you are connected. The part preceding the starred section can be ignored in this case. The following people have contributed to making this file what it is: Malcolm Humes (mal AT emf.net) Mike J. Brown (mjbrown AT magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Craig Shipley (craigs AT pyramid.com) Mike Borella (cathmike AT xnet.com) Phil Kime (Philip AT kime.org.uk) ------------------------------------ Mailing Lists Through Email/Internet ------------------------------------ A mailing list is a group of users with a special interest topic that unites them via email. Any mail sent to the list address is "exploded" by being sent to everyone on the subscription list. The lists can reach up to hundreds or thousands of people with mutual interests. Lists are generally available as normal (separate mail for each post) or digest format. Some lists are moderated: the moderator may request that a post be edited or may refuse to post it if the content considered off the topic of the list or possibly even offensive. This may sound restrictive, but in reality there are few situations where post content is censored or edited. One example is a list where discussion of trading bootlegs is forbidden by the management of the site that "owns" the mailing list. There is no guarantee of "free speech" on computer networks as there also is the implicit assumption that anything you email or post may be read by many people. Most people are not very concerned about this, but public discussions of potentially illegal actions such as trading tapes, bootlegs or otherwise is at your own risk and should probably be undertaken with some discretion. In theory, mailing lists can reach a lot of people who have email but cannot get Internet news. Mailing lists tend to have less usless posts and flames because of a smaller, more focused audience. For solo and related acts, discussions might take place on related lists (for example, Fish might be discussed on the Marillion list, and Brand X on the Genesis list, Bruford, Levin and Belew on the King Crimson list, Bruford on the Yes list, in fact Bruford on just about any list: there is a theory, "The Bruford Connectivity Hypothesis", that Bill Bruford can be connected to anybody in the music business by no more than two steps, where a step is defined as "having worked with". There is a stronger hypothesis "The Special Bruford Connectivity Hypothesis" that extends this by saying that the connection can be made to anyone on the planet in no more than three steps. Ergo, Bill Bruford is the social epicentre of the human race. Quite frightening really. Most mailing lists have a "-request" or administrative address for subscriptions and unsubscriptions. Save the introduction to any list to which you subscribe or keep track of the administration address when you want to unsubscribe. Many people post subscribe and unsubscribe messages to the list mailer addresses, unwittingly sending them to up to hundreds of other subscribers. Some list administrators do not regularly read the mailing list posts or have automated the subscription process, so use the administration address for the appropriate requests. Listserv or Bitnet mailing lists typically have a listserv@ address you should use instead of a "-request" format address. Some of the smaller, digested lists use no administrative address and all mail is sent to one address. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Please Note ~~~~~~~~~~~ There is no guarantee that these addresses are correct. What you see below is, to the best of my knowledge, the most recent address of the mailing list. If the address is incorrect, please let me know. If you are a moderator of a prog mailing list, please contact me with updates if and when your address changes. ::Artist:: Progmaestros mailing list ::Admin Address:: progmaestros-request AT arastar.com ::Moderator Address:: progmaestros-request AT arastar.com ::Comments:: This daily digest was developed as a result of the interest in Dream Theater by musicians subscribed to the Ytsejam digest. Our goal is to network the musicians across the world who are interested in Progressive rock and metal music. We believe by doing this we can share ideas, experiences and plans for our individual efforts and thereby make it more accessible to a mainstream audience. This music deserves to be heard by more people AND better promoted by the industry. We hope that through our collective efforts this will eventually happen. THE WHOLE IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS! The progmaestros mailing list can be joined by doing the following: Send the following e-mail to progmaestros-request AT arastar.com Subject should be "asdf". Text should read exactly: subscribe progmaestros firstname lastname (replace the names with your own.) You will be added automatically! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Colorado Art Rock Society (CARS) ::WWW:: http://denver.sidewalk.com/detail/2518 ::Comments:: The Colorado Art Rock Society (C.A.R.S.) holds monthly meetings of Progressive Rock fans. We meet fellow fans, listen to GREAT music, swap CD's, eat, mingle and just relax. We meet the last Saturday evening of each month. CD player is provided. We meet the last Saturday of each month at 6:00pm Meetings take place upstairs at: Margarita Bay Club 1301 South Pearl Street (at Louisiana) Denver, Colorado 80210 (303) 871-0603 Take I-25 to Washington/Emerson Exit (exit 205B) Coming from the North - Right on Washington, Right on Louisiana (Club is on the left) Coming from the South - Left on Louisiana (Club os on the left) We meet in the UPSTAIRS meeting room. For more detailed directions check out the web site. The Colorado Art Rock Society (C.A.R.S.) also has a mailing list set up. This list will be used to send out reminders for our monthly meetings at the Margarita Bay Club (last Saturday of each month at 6:00 pm) in Denver. It will also be used for announcements of Progressive music, gigs and events in the Colorado area. We also have an archive section which includes files and web page bookmarks. To subscribe: <URL:http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/coloradoprog> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Pendentif Aglagla general Prog mailing list ::Admin Address:: pengla-owner AT egroups.fr ::Moderator Address:: jdelcoux AT infonie.be ::WWW:: <URL:http://pengla.com/> ::Comments:: The only Frenchspeaking mailing list about Progressive Rock! If you want to discuss about Progressive Rock in french, then visit our web site for more informations and for subscription. It's free !!! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Dream Theater ::Admin Address:: ytsejam-request AT arastar.com ::Moderator Address:: ytsejam-owner AT arastar.com ::Comments:: Ytsejam, the Dream Theater mailing list concerns itself with Dream Theater past, present, and future. To subscribe make this the body of your mail: subscribe ytsejam "Your Name" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Peter Gabriel ::Admin Address:: gabriel AT alpha.ufsia.ac.be ::Moderator Address:: CCS.PEERAER.G AT alpha.ufsia.ac.be (Geert Peeraer) ::Comments:: FTP archives available. Digest form available also. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Genesis ::Admin Address:: paperlate-request AT ansto.gov.au ::Moderator Address:: mcmahan AT cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan) ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.paperlate.gpa.it/> ::Comments:: Send a message with `HELP' in the body for details on how to use the server to subscribe. (This is *totally* automated!) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Gentle Giant ::Admin Address:: owner-majordomo AT lists.uoregon.edu ::Comments:: Bob Parker runs the Gentle Giant mailing (On Reflection) list. To receive list mail at the address from which you're sending your mail, send a message to majordomo AT lists.uoregon.edu with the words: subscribe on-reflection in the message body (no subject is necessary). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Gibraltar (Progressive Rock) ::Admin Address:: listman AT plato.museum.tulane.edu ::Moderator Address:: gib AT mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Mike Taylor) ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.progrock.net/gibraltar/gibraltar.html> ::Comments:: The list covers general and obscure Progressive Rock topics like rec.music.progressive and has a very useful archive server. Backissues and related files are available via anonymous ftp in the music directories at <URL:ftp://ftp.museum.tulane.edu/gib_issues/> There's a very outdated topical index of the issues of the digest which is useful for finding references to specific bands in back issues. Backissues are also available via the Gibraltar web site and are 100% indexed and searchable. To subscribe, send mail body of: subscribe gibraltar "Your Name" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Peter Hammill/Van Der Graaf Generator ::Admin Address:: ph7-request AT arastar.com ::Moderator Address:: ph7-owner AT arastar.com ::Comments:: The ph7 mailing list concerns itself with the music and writings of Peter Hammill and related bands such as Van Der Graaf Generator. Recent discussions have included comments on Random Hold, Fripp, The Long Goodbye and Peter Hammill's two books of lyrics, poems, and short stories. To subscribe, send a mail body of: subscribe ph7 "Your Name" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Hawkwind ::Admin Address:: boc-l AT spcvxa.spc.edu ::Comments:: Talk focuses around the two primary bands, but discussions have included the Ozric Tentacles and Eloy, plus Hawkwind offshoot bands and other `space-rock' bands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Allan Holdsworth ::Admin Address:: atavachron-request AT msuacad.morehead-st.edu ::Moderator Address:: preston AT msuacad.morehead-st.edu ::Comments:: A digested list that discusses Allan's music and session work. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: IQ ::Admin Address:: nmd AT newton.npl.co.uk ::Moderator Address:: nmd AT newton.npl.co.u ::Comments:: Also included is discussion of related bands such as Jadis, Niadem's Ghost and the Lens, as well as to a smaller degree, lesser known bands on the English club/prog scene. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Jethro Tull ::Moderator Address:: vernernet AT juno.com Kevin Smith (Vern) ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.tullzine.org/talktull.htm> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Kansas ::Admin Address:: kansas-request AT traveller.com ::Moderator Address:: rew AT crystaldata.com (Ryan Waldron) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: King Crimson, Robert Fripp and related artists ::Admin Address:: admin AT elephant-talk.com ::Moderator Address:: moderator AT elephant-talk.com (Toby Howard) ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.elephant-talk.com/> ::Comments:: This is the "Elephant Talk" digest (previously called "Discipline"). Archives at <URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/> with discography(ies?) also. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Marillion/Fish ::Admin Address:: freaks-request AT arastar.com ::Moderator Address:: freaks-owner AT arastar.com ::Comments:: The freaks mailing list is the oldest of the arastar.com: progressive rock mailing lists. It deals with Marillion, Fish, and other related bands. To subscribe, send mail body of: subscribe freaks "Your Name" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Steve Morse and the Dixie Dregs ::Admin Address:: blickstein AT dregs.enet.dec.COM ::Moderator Address:: blickstein AT dregs.enet.dec.COM ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Mike Oldfield ::Admin Address:: amarok-request AT ommadawn.cegep-heritage.qc.ca ::List Address:: amarok AT ommadawn.cegep-heritage.qc.ca ::Comments:: To subscribe send subscribe amarok-daily in the body of a message to the admin address Web site at <URL:http://www.frisbee.net.au/amarok/> ftp archive at <URL:ftp://ftp.frisbee.net.au/amarok/> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Pink Floyd ::Admin Address:: echoserv AT meddle.org (automated server), echoes-request AT meddle.org (manual un/subscribe) ::Moderator Address:: bear AT meddle.org ::Comments:: Basic info is at <URL:http://www.meddle.org> To subscribe send mail to the server (echoserv AT meddle.org) with Subscription: add echoes or Subscription: add-digest echoes You can mail to echoes-request AT meddle.org to susbcribe manually. Archive server has lists of rare releases, huge FAQ, interviews etc. You can get info on how to use the server to retrieve files, reviews of rarities discs and interviews and other info by sending mail to the echoserv address with the text body: help quit ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Post-classical discussion ::Admin Address:: majordomo AT cs.uwp.edu ::Comments:: Send "subscribe post-classical" in the *body* of the mail or "subscribe post-classical-digest" for the digest format. From the admin information regarding which bands might typicallybe discussed on the list: Shinjuku Thief, In The Nursery, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Daniel Denis, Pete Namlook, Peter Frohmader, Graeme Revell, Laibach, Autopsia, Mynox Layh, Frame/Cut/Frame, Edgar Varese, John Cage, Karlheinz Stockhousen, Michael Nyman, Steve Reich, Harry Partch, Morton Feldman, Mossolov and Iannis Xenakis. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Queensryche ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.scream.org/> ::WWW (Subscriptions):: <URL:http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/queensryche/> ::Moderator Address:: queensryche-owner AT onelist.com (Jai Piper) ::Comments:: Now Web-based. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Rush ::Admin Address:: thmleng-subscribe AT egroups.com (subscribe) thmleng-unsubscribe AT egroups.com (unsubscribe) ::Moderator Address:: thmleng-owner AT egroups.com ::Comments:: The former Rush mailing list, The National Midnight Star, was discontinued. Comment from the former rush-mgr on its demise is at <URL:http://rushworld.net/nmsmirror.com/> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Tangerine Dream ::Admin Address:: tadream-request AT cs.uwp.edu ::Moderator Address:: datta AT cs.uwp.edu (Dave Datta) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: David Torn ::Admin Address:: pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk ::Moderator Address:: pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk (Pete Cole) ::Comments:: Door X - the David Torn mailing list. Current membership 100, and growing ... including DT himself! To join, e-mail pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk with a subject of SUBSCRIBE DOORX ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Triumvirat ::Admin Address:: russ AT triumvirat.net ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.triumvirat.net/> ::Comments:: Related to Triumvirat, Juergen Fritz and Helmut Koellen. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Pere Ubu ::Moderator Address:: pereubu AT projex.demon.co.uk ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.dnai.com/~obo/ubu/> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Vangelis ::Admin Address:: direct-request AT ctsx.celtech.com ::Moderator Address:: N/A ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: What's Rattlin'? (Canterbury) ::Moderator Address:: bigbang AT alpes-net.fr (Aymeric Leroy) ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/calyx.html> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: Yes ::Admin Address:: nfte AT cms.uncwil.edu ::Moderator Address:: nfte AT cms.uncwil.edu ::Comments:: Yes and Anderson-Bruford-Wakeman-Howe related. Newsletter: `Notes From The Edge'. NFTE Server (lyrics, backissues, discography, rarities, surveys, GIFs): Automated. For help send mail with subject line "send main help" to yes-archive AT meiko.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Artist:: John Zorn ::Admin Address:: zorn-request AT unh.edu ::Moderator Address:: mpj1 AT kepler.unh.edu ::Comments:: This list is for discussion of the composer/musician/producer John Zorn, and everything he has been part of. (i.e. Naked City, Praxis, Pain Killer, etc...) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------- FTP Sites --------- The primary FTP site for progressive music related information is: <URL:http://www.progrock.net/pub/music/prog/> The directories include: articles, concert reviews, discographies, interviews, Gibraltar backissues, album reviews, and much more, including the latest version of these FAQs. The administrator of the site is Adam Levin and you can reach him at alevin AT ari.net if you have comments, questions, or submissions. Note that this is a moderated site - you cannot just put files there. Most of the musical discographies, lyrics, interviews and other information can be found at: <URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/> This site also has a number of mailing list archives and other information but is not devoted to progressive music and has little information about more obscure artists. There also is an ftp site dedicated to ambient and related musics at: <URL:ftp://techno.stanford.edu/> It is a repository of information about all types of ambient music, from Eno's "pure" form to droning guitar/psych rock. It also has a gopher server. ----------------------------- Newsgroups Dedicated to Bands ----------------------------- There are Usenet groups solely dedicated to particular progressive bands. Below is a selection to give you an idea of the naming conventions. Dream Theater (alt.music.dream-theater) Bela Fleck (alt.music.bela-fleck) Peter Gabriel (alt.music.peter-gabriel) Peter Hammill (alt.fan.peter.hammill) Jethro Tull (alt.music.jethro-tull) Marillion (alt.music.marillion) Moody Blues (alt.music.moody-blues) Phish (rec.music.phish) Pink Floyd (alt.music.pink-floyd) Todd Rundgren (alt.music.todd-rundgren) Rush (alt.music.rush) Yes (alt.music.yes) While mentioning these bands in r.m.p is fine, long, drawn-out discussions of their music should be kept to the appropriate newsgroup. ------------- FTP Via Email ------------- Some sites have no ftp access, or have ftp access that is limited to local or regional sites. Fortunately, you can access many FTP sites via email. If you ca not FTP from your site, use one of the following ftp-by-mail servers: ftpmail AT decwrl.dec.com ftpmail AT src.doc.ic.ac.uk ftpmail AT cs.uow.edu.au ftpmail AT grasp.insa-lyon.fr For complete instructions, send a message reading "help" to the server. Note that the word "help" must appear in the body of the message, not just on the subject line. --------- WWW Pages --------- This section merely provides pointers to central repositories of information wherin you will find endless numbers of other links. Keeping lists of all relevant links is simply not possible in a finite FAQ. The *GEPR* (see FAQ 4 and FAQ 7) is now properly on-line at its new home in the US. There are currently two mirrors, one in Europe and another in the US. Choose the site nearest to you for the fastest access. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Home site (maintained by Fred Trafton) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <URL:http://www.gepr.net/> Adam Levin also currently runs the progressive music home page that contains a lot of interesting information including links to other places. This can be reached at: <URL:http://www.progrock.net/> This site also maintains a page of links to Web pages detailing many (some quite obscure) progressive artists. You can even access music of various lesser known bands. Rather than duplicate all the links here, you can find them on these pages. The premier progressive music mailing list, Gibraltar now has a Web page: <URL:http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gibraltar/gibraltar.html> Also, perhaps you would like to look at the Triad Radio Web pages at URL: <URL:http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/triad.html> "Triad was a progressive, free-form, innovative radio program that aired in Chicago on WXFM-FM between 1969 and 1977. There was a lot of interesting music that went out over the air-waves of Triad on WXFM-FM 105.9 in the early 70's." (from the Triad Web page). Henry Potts now maintains the alt.music.yesFAQs online at <URL:http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/amy_faq.htm> ~~~~~ iRock ~~~~~ iRock is probably the most exciting prog site on the net for new progressive music. There are two new iRock shows a week that are listenable via audio streaming technology from VocalTec. With their new player client, Internet Wave, one can hear excellent progressive rock directly off the net if you have a 28.8 connection and TCP/IP. iRock is now the first Internet Music Radio Station licensed to play copyright music on the net by ASCAP and BMI. Take a look and listen to iRock at: <URL:http://www.irock.com> -------------------- This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments, questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent work.-------------------- Eden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Large Austrian band with folk and classical influences (2) French duo comparable to Spring, Gracious and Bo Hansson Fantasia ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) From Finland (2) Post-Kaipa Rione Stolt Swedish band Finch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Netherlands prog (2) Australian hard rock I Flashman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) USA Art-rock (without the "I") (2) Italian pop/rock band with one prog album Full Moon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Belgian mid 70s fusion (2) Norwegian mid 80s prog/metal Galaxy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Prog from Switzerland (2) USA heavy psych Gandalf ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Austrian synthesist/guitarist (2) Psychedelic band from early 70's Genesis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) The one everyone knows (2) Some satanic band?? (3) Argentian prog band?? Haze ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Early 70s from Germany (2) 80s UK band Horizant(e) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Swedish late '70s (without the "e") (2) Argentinian band Iconoclast(a) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Mexican prog (2) Avant-garde /industrial band (no 'a' in the name) iQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) British neo-progressive band (2) German hip-hop Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Avant-weird-psych-prog band from early seventies. Victor Periano's Kingdom Come ---------------------------------------------------------------------- US spinoff of the above, more like keyboard-oriented stadium rock. Kingdom Come ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Late eighties Zeppelin influenced metal band. Lethe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Italian '90s band (2) early '80s Netherlands prog Magdelena ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) mid to late '80s Japanese band (2) early '80s Spanish band Magma ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) French Zeuhl band (2) Argentian prog band (3) Korean band Masque ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) From Japan (2) From Sweden Nirvana ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Old British band with progressive tendencies (2) The popular US band Now ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) From Belgium (2) From US (3) From Japan Octopus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) German mid-'70s prog (2) British psych/prog band from 1969. (3) US psych/blues band, one album from 1969 (4) Norwegian symphonic band, one album in 1981 Phoenix ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Romanian from '73-'75 (2) UK '76-'80 commerical prog Providence ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) '90s neo-prog from Japan (2) UK from '71 folky prog Sand ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) '70s German band (2) '70s US band Sirius ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) German euro symphonic style band (2) Japanese precursor to Mr. Sirius Shadowland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) British neo-progressive (2) something else, put out an album named *The Beauty of Escaping* on Geffen in 1990 Solstice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Canadian band, style unknown (2) UK band, cross between Renaissance and Marillion Victor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) '90s Canadian Rush guitarist solo project (2) mid-'70s symphonic prog Wild(e) Flowers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Early Canterbury progressive band (2) Mainstream US band?? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Are there any progressive rock radio shows? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A few. Descriptions are not by the FAQ maintainer. ::Show:: Alternative Oldies ::Location:: New Orleans Metro Area ::Station:: WTUL 91.5 FM ::Time:: Saturday, 6-8pm ::DJ:: Mike Taylor ::Comments:: Music Played: Any rock recorded 1985 or prior. Most shows feature at least some progressive rock and often are entirely prog and fusion. Occasionally, the show focuses on psychedelia and blues-rock. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Show:: Aural Moon ::Location:: Wichita, Kansas (Internet Broadcast Only) ::Station:: <URL:http://listen.to/auralmoon> ::Time:: 24 hours a day/7 days a week ::DJ:: Davin Flateau, Jim Brennan ::Comments:: Since we're a broadcast, we play a wide variety of progressive rock, including old and new. We love to play some more obscure stuff, and guide people into some great groups they never knew about, forgot about, or were too young to experience. We tend to shy away from Dream Theater, its clones, and metal in general (although there are exceptions). We add new music to our playlist almost every day. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Show:: iRock ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.irock.com> ::Comments:: A Web radio station ... you can download the shows and listen to them using RealAudio Player. See bottom of FAQ 5. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Show:: Exposure ::Location:: Key West, Florida ::Station:: See below ::Address:: 43553 Ellsworth St. Suite B, Fremont, CA 94539 ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.microserve.net/vradio/vr/html/nv/exposure/exposure.html> ::Time:: Every Monday evening 9PM - Midnight ::DJ:: John Szpara ::Music Played:: General progressive rock, from the early seventies on up. ::Comments:: *Station information* WOZN 98.7 FM Key West, Florida Sunday Evening 10PM-Midnight WPLT 93.9 FM Plattsburgh, New York Sunday Evening around 8PM-10 WOUI 88.9 FM Chicago, Illinois Wednesday Evening 6PM-8PM Playlists for the previous week are posted each week on r.m.p. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Show:: The Sheltering Sky ::Station:: WBGU, 88.1 FM ::Location:: Bowling Green, OH ::Time:: Wednesdays from 7pm to 9pm ::DJ:: Doug Maynard ::Music Played:: Broad. Anything I can get my hands on. Classic groups (Yes, ELP, Marillion, Kansas, Crimson, Rush, Tull, Gentle Giant, etc...) as well as newer or lesser known groups (Ozric Tentacles, Iluvatar, Witsend). My collection is modest, but growing. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Show:: Sleepless ::Station:: WCWM Williamsburg, VA 90.7 FM ::Time:: Sunday 10am-noon ::DJ:: Bill Maciejewski ::WWW:: <URL:http://cs.wm.edu/~wmmaci/> ::Music Played:: I often play King Crimson, Brian Eno, Frank Zappa, Wire, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Discipline, David Sylvian, etc. and a lot more obscure stuff. I tend to like wierd instrumentals a lot and probably play a lot of things people might not consider progressive (but I do, so I play it. Ha!). See Web page for setlists etc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Show:: Watcher of the Skies ::Location:: Central Arkansas, USA ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.magic105fm.com/> or <URL:http://beakerstreet.com> ::Station:: KMJX Magic 105, 105.1FM ::Time:: Every Sunday night at 9PM for approximately 30 minutes ::DJ:: "Wil Warren" (real name: James J. Warren or JJW) ::Email:: wwarren AT beakerstreet.com ::Music Played:: This prerecorded program is available (live over the radio and the internet) every Sunday evening at 9PM Central Time (USA) in the middle of the famous Beaker Street radio show with "Clyde Clifford." Each Watcher of the Skies segment is devoted to an artist or subject concerning any category of progressive rock. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Were there not US releases of some Italian progressive albums with the same music but lyrics in English? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, there were several. Most notably, PFM released *Storia d'un Minuto*, *Per Un Amico*, and *L'Isola di Niente* in Italian. Manticore (I think this was Peter Sinfield's label...he did write the lyrics for the English verison but I have also heard ELP started it) released *Photos of Ghosts* and *The World Became the World* with remixed instrumentation and English vocals and titles. These partially cover the three Italian albums. *Photos of Ghosts* is basically all of *Per Un Amico*, plus `Generale!' which is from *Storia d'un Minuto*. *The World Became the World* is *L'Isola di Niente* plus the title track, from *Storia d'un Minuto*. Both of the English versions are poor pressings, and in general, people agree that the original Italian versions are far superior, both technically and performance-wise. Other bands to do the same are RDM (*Contamination* is the English version of *Contaminazione*) and Maxophone (English version has the same title). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Which Focus album(s) contain "Sugar Island" and "House of the King"? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Although "House of the King" was originally released on *Focus III*, it's now available on the CD release of , *In and Out of Focus*. "Sugar Island" is also available on *IaOoF*. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What is the Mellotron and how does it work? What are related instruments? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From afcpeters AT aol.com (Peter Stoller): The Mellotron is a keyboard instrument in which the sounds are produced by strips of prerecorded analog tape dragged slowly over playback heads. Think of it as a mechanical, analog sample-playback device. Tape `patches' were usually of strings, choirs, flutes and such. The Beatles were probably the first to use them, but the Mellotron was popularized by King Crimson, the Moody Blues and Genesis. (Wakeman used them with Yes, but they were rarely dominant. Emerson never used one.) Songs such as Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King" and Genesis' "Watcher of the Skies" are good examples of the Mellotron sound. The Chamberlin was a similar instrument from a different manufacturer, and Wakeman had someone build him an improved version of the Mellotron called the Birotron. Patrick Moraz played a Vako Orchestron, which was the same principal, but using the playback technology employed in film projectors, rather than tape. From rogoff AT std.teradyne.com (David Rogoff): For each key there is a 5' length of tape (= 8sec @ 7.5''/sec). One end rests on a capstan (rotating metal cylinder that runs the width of the whole keyboard. On each key is a pinch roller. When you press the key down, the tape is pressed against the capstan and starts moving. This is exactly the same as in a cassette deck. Also under the tape (again one for each key) is a tape playback head. So, the tape is pulled across the head, generating the sound. If you hold the key for more than 8 seconds the sound (and the tape) just stops. When you let go of the key, a spring pulls the tape back. This takes about a 1/8 second, so you can't play 64th note trills on the thing. In fact, you never want to hit the keys: you sort of push them down. The action takes some getting used to. Also, Each tape is 3/8" wide made up of 3 1/8" tracks for 3 different sounds. A big lever moved the whole tape head assembly from side to side to chose the different sounds. If you have access to a 1/2" four track reel-to-reel you can make your own tapes pretty easily. It just takes a long time! I've been describing the Mellotron-400, the most common and most "portable" model. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Eddie Jobson is credited on the King Crimson album USA. Was he ever in the band? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No, Jobson was not a member of Crimson, but he did get called in to do overdubs on *USA*. Apparently Fripp had fired Cross by that point and needed someone to do the overdubs. The majority of what you hear on the album is Cross. Jobson did not perform the material live. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do a lot of tape trading in order to find out about more obscure (non-bootleg) progressive music. Is this legal? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Note that this response only applies to US copyright law. As of this writing there has not been a specific legal precedent set. In other words, a case has not been brought before a court involving taping of non-bootleg material. The current status of the law regarding home taping is best summed up by Terry Carroll's Copyright FAQ at: <URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/Copyright-FAQ/top.html> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Suppose I tape an album or a CD for a friend anyway. Is this helping or hurting the artist of the work? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It depends who you tape it for. If you are taping it for somone who will buy the original if they like it, then it is basically free advertising and can only help the artist. The other person would not have bought it anyway if they had not heard it. However, if you are taping it for people who will just keep the copy even if they love it, you are hurting them. It is not a clear cut help/hurt ... it depends on the idiosyncracies of the people involved. Seeing as prog is a minority area where artists need support (and generally deserve it), I personally make it a policy to buy every album I hear and like on an original format. Consider it an act of tribute. I have even baought back catalogue material when I have tape copies that I rarely listen to. I consider it an honour to own good music on an original format, you may be different. Use your own discretion but be aware that what you choose to do may well be illegal and this FAQ is certainly not suggesting any such behaviour. Tape trading in minority music simulates, to an extent, the existence of a decent radio network, not dominated by irrelevant financial concerns. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What does RIO stand for? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From afcpeters AT aol.com (Peter Stoller): Rock In Opposition. It was an assemblage of European progressive bands who were defining a style "in opposition" to the English language domination of the pop music industry. Key elements were that groups sang in their native languages (or, in Magma's case, created their own), and they drew much of their source material from their own national folk, popular and classical musics, instead of using the American blues-based model. RIO started as the name of a festival in London organised by Henry Cow in 1978 and featuring groups from Italy, Sweden, France and Belgium. After the concert, they decided to formalize the coalition. They organized tours and festivals in each others countries. According to Henry Cow drummer/lyricist Chris Cutler, RIO as an organization failed due to political and philosophical differences: there is no longer an official RIO, and has not been for some time but it succeeded and has continued to grow as a cultural phenomenon. The original RIO artists were Henry Cow, Samla Mammas Manna, Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Stormy Six, Art Bears, Aqsak Maboul, and Etron Fou Leloublan. Associated artists include Magma, Albert Marcoeur, ZNR, Feliu y Joan Albert, Musica Urbana, Goebbels Harth, Kraldjursanstalten, Unrest, Work Play, The Residents, Faust, L. Voag, Mnemonists, This Heat, Cassiber, Thinking Plague, Haniwa Chan, and John Oswald. (There are, of course, many others.) This information was derived from Cutler's book, "File Under Popular" (see FAQ 3). From Mike Borella (cathmike AT xnet.com): The term RIO is now used as a way of describing some of the more indescribable musics created today by artists that are influenced to some degree by the original RIO artists. The "new" RIO influenced bands would include U Totem, Thinking Plaugue, 5UU's, Lacrymosa, and maybe Banda Elastika. So when someone says that a new band sound like RIO, you know that maybe be influenced by RIO or are just weird/elcectic or just strange. See Phil Zampino's (zampino AT squidco.com) Web site dedicated to RIO artists and labels at: <URL:http://www.panix.com/~zampino/rer/> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ How many versions of Gentle Giant's ---------------------------------------------------------------------- *Free Hand* have been on CD, and what are the differences? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From barrett AT cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett): There have been 4 versions on CD: two from One Way Records in the USA, and two from Terrapin Trucking, a.k.a. Road Goes On Forever (RGOF), in Great Britain. Summary: there are large differences between the first three versions, and the Terrapin/RGOF versions are acknowledged by fans to be the best. Now for the longer answer. The first CD came from One Way Records, number CDL 57338. This disc was mastered from inferior American master tapes and sounds very muffled. If you turn up your treble control, the disc sounds almost normal, but overall the sound is mediocre. In response to complaints from fans, One Way recalled all the old CD's from stores, sought out better master tapes, and rereleased *Free Hand* with the SAME identification number, CDL 57338. It is not possible to distinguish between the first and second *Free Hand* CD's from the packaging. The only way to tell by eye is to open the package and examine the code number stamped on the disc rim. The old disc says "AM6/CDL 57338", and the new disc says "ESK 1 <010> CDL 57338". The second One Way disc has much better sound. The master tape that One Way used, however, is a very strange one. It is not the same tape that was used for any previous release of the album, and the music is actually different from the original! In "Time To Kill", Derek Schulman sings some of the lines instead of Ray Schulman; for example, `And with no questions then, he finds his way'. In "On Reflection", the drums come in half a verse earlier than in the original. And worst of all, at the climax of "On Reflection", when the full band comes crashing in, the drums are barely audible! This CD is worth owning because it is different from any previous release, but it is notrepresentative version of the album. Next, Terrapin/RGOF released their first *Free Hand* disc, identification number RGF CD 1004. It uses the correct master tapes and has very good sound quality. I find it a little bit bass-heavy, but it is much better than the other versions. Some fans complained that the disc had too much hiss, and Terrapin/RGOF remastered it to remove hiss, giving the disc a new identification number, TRUCKCD 004. Reportedly, the differences between the two Terrapin/RGOF discs are minor. If you own only 1 *Free Hand* CD, get this one. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------------- This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments, questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent work.-------------------- ::Subscription Rates:: $4/year (US) $6/year (outside US) ::Frequency:: Quarterly ::Comments:: Adventurous and excellent newsletter ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Publication:: Exposé ::Editor/Contact:: Peter Thelen ::Address:: 6167 Jarvis Ave #150, Newark, CA ::Email:: ptlk AT netcom.com ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1831/expo-nl.html> ::Phone:: (510) 791-6186 ::Scope/Musical Domain:: "Exploring the Boundaries of Rock" ::Language:: English ::Format:: Newsletter, A4, 60pp+, BW ::Subscription Rates:: Price format is (Single issue/4 issue subscription). USA - ($4.50/$18), please see web page for overseas and other prices. ::Frequency:: Quarterly ::Comments:: Exposé is carried by: Wayside Music, Ranjit, Musea, Of Sound Mind (?), Sights Sounds, and occasionally Ultima Thule. Also by the following California record store: Rhino (Claremont). It's also carried by "Le FreeSon" in Montreal, Québec. Now also carried by: Rush-Mor Music (Milwaukee), Vinyl Solutions (Grand Rapids), Twisted Village (Cambridge), World Disque (Tokyo), Record Runner (Brazil) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Publication:: Synthesis ::Address:: 219 Napfle St., Philadelphia PA 19111 ::Scope/Musical Domain:: Electronic oriented ::Language:: English ::Subscription Rates:: $5 per 4 issues, $7 overseas. ::Comments:: Electronic oriented. Claims not to be interested in art rock but has had info on Kit Watkins. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Publication:: Lullabye Letter ::Editor/Contact:: c/o North American Robert Wyatt Apreciation Society ::Address:: 9690 NE Adolf Rd., Newberg OR 97132-7000 ::Scope/Musical Domain:: Robert Wyatt ::Language:: English ::Comments:: Grass roots zine on Wyatt. Supposedly very good. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Publication:: Option ::Address:: 2345 Westwood Blvd Suite 2, Los Angeles CA 90064 ::Scope/Musical Domain:: Independent acts, including progressive artists, mostly Canterbury and RIO ::Language:: English ::Subscription Rates:: US$15.45 per 6 issues ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Publication:: Progression ::Editor/Contact:: John Collinge ::Address:: PO Box 7164, Lowell, MA 01852 ::Scope/Musical Domain:: Progressive (mostly mainstream) ::Language:: English ::Subscription Rates:: 4 issues per year. US, Puerto Rico and Canada - $18. Rest of world - $23. Sample issues $5 for US etc., $6 for rest of world. ::Comments:: About the publication: PROGRESSION is an 80-120 page, quarterly magazine devoted to news, reviews, interviews and features involving progressive rock artists new and old, in the United States and overseas. We cover the so called "mainstream" progressive acts such as IQ, Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull Marillion, etc. We include occasional features and reviews on more "serious" prog artists such as Univers Zero and Richard Pinhas. And we strive to highlight emerging talent in the progressive realm: Echolyn, Prometheus, Ozric Tentacles, Episode, Cairo, Djam Karet, Ancient Vision, Anglagard, Witsend, Kalaban, plus many, many others. A typical edition of the magazine includes exclusive, in-depth interviews with progressive rock artists (past issues have featured the likes of Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, Jordan Rudess, Mastermind, Änglagård, Bill Bruford, Marillion's Mark Kelly, Nik Turner's hawkwind, etc.), plus dozens ofconcert and album reviews, tour intineraries and information on new album and video release. Photographs accompany the articles. Ample advertising provides a forum for those wishing to buy and sell progressive recordings and other items. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Publication:: Tone Clusters ::Editor/Contact:: Ken Egbert ::Address:: 5648 Riverdale Av., Suite 105, Bronx, NY 10471 ::Phone:: 718 562 4982 ::Language:: English ::Comments:: Ken is a former employee of Pantasia Mad Platters, and has produced TC sporadicly for 15 or 20 YEARS!! Although thoroughly diverse in his interests, his particular love is the Canterbury scene, groups like Caravan, Hatfield, etc. Very knowledgeable in the English, French, German, Italian, domestic prog scene of the 70's 80's, and continues to expose folks to new interesting stuff. Sample copies $2.50 well worth it. You may also phone through the Nowhere music store (see FAQ 6) at 914 962 6274 or mail through said store at nowhere247 AT aol.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FromMike Borella: The basic publication list data is mostly courtsey of Musea, via Yannick Lallement (lallemen AT ese-metz.fr or lallemen AT loria.fr). Many thanks for their sharing this information so that others can benefit from it. Also, Kurt Rongey, who runs the Long Dark Music label, compiled much of the list. The comments and information is mostly originally from him, though some of the information was condensed or paraphrased. -------------------- This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments, questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent work.-------------------- (01382) 736702 ::Comments:: Their main specialty is electronic and new age synth music: what they don't know about the availability of T.Dream, Kit Watkins, Gandalf, etc, etc, isn't worth knowing. They are also very helpful with all manner of progressive stuff, including Gong, Canterbury, Bruford, Camel, etc, etc. These were the guys who, when I called up about a CD of Pink Floyd's Relics, instantly knew that it was only ever available from Australia, its legality was in some doubt, and has been out of print for about two years. They will get imports from anywhere in the world, and if you're thinking about a Japanese import, they will often have a good idea whether it's likely to soon become available from elsewhere, and therefore be much cheaper if you wait a while. Their prices are not discounted, and they do charge postage, but they give a good service (recorded delivery within the UK), and always seem to know how to try and get obscure stuff. Very good outlet, reliable with reasonable prices (for Britain :-). This months ad shows releases by Anyone's Daughter, Asia Minor, Cannata, Circus, Cirkel, The Enid, Ivory, Kaipa, Kayak, Mercy Train, Mythos, Pendragon, Red Jasper, SRC and Summer Indoors all for around $17.00. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Compact Huset ::Address:: Austmannav. 9, P.O.Box 1756, 5501 Haugesund, Norway ::Phone:: +47 52 71 61 70 ::Fax:: +47 52 72 98 19 ::Comments:: They deal in all kinds of music, if interested in special things, talk to Arnstein (manager) who know most about everything. They are very helpful. They release 2 main catalogs and 10 updates pr. year. Catalogues can be subscribed for 5-6 pounds for one year, 9-10 for two years. Most of the catalog is printed in norwegian, but there are some english columns as well. Their normal prices are around 13-14 pounds of which 18.02% can be deducted (norw. VAT). Special offers, discounts etc. are also obtainable. Orders for foreign customers are at minimum 500 nok (45-47 pounds), orders can be phoned, faxed or mailed (snail-mail). Note that it is the cost of the total order that is important, not the actual cost (if any records are unavailable). They prefer payment by creditcards (VISA, AMERICAN EXPRESS and MASTERCARD), but pre-payment is also accepted through a proforma invoice. If things are out of stock, and therefore the delivery takes some time, they will inform you on your order-status if you call them. A very helpful bunch of people. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Cranium Music ::Address:: PO Box 103-09, Te Rapa, Hamilton, New Zealand ::Phone:: +64 7 8299 840 ::Fax:: +64 7 8299 980 ::Email:: richard AT cranium.co.nz ::WWW:: <URL:http://http://www.cranium.co.nz/> ::Comments:: Import and sell Progressive, Space Rock,Psychedelic, Electronic Experimental music. Stock totals some 1000 items with 99% being CD's. Labels that we deal with: Acme, Cyclops, Delerium, Dovetail, Emergency Broadcast System, Mystic Stones, Voiceprint (all UK) Crimsonic, Foxtrot, Xotic Mind (Sweden), Erdenklang, Manikin, Music Is Intelligence (Germany), Art Sublime, Lasers Edge, Wild Places (USA) plus Spalax (France). We are sole distributors for some of the above labels we are starting to get some shops stocking Prog etc. By the way I think we can SAFELY say we are the largest stockists of Prog, Psychedelic etc in NZ (and POSSIBLY Australia). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Delerium Records/The Freak Emporium ::Address:: PO Box 1288, Gerrards Cross, Bucks, SL9 9YB, UK. ::Tel:: +44 (0)1753 893008 ::Fax:: +44 (0)1753 892879 ::Email:: delerium AT mail.bogo.co.uk ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.delerium.co.uk/> ::Comments:: Extensive mail-order list combining new releases and reissues. Concentrates mainly on psychedelic and underground titles, ltd edition reissues from 60s through 90s. Send E:Mail, SAE or IRC for current list. Updated lists of new stock also available on request. Our tastes are quite diverse: Prog-rock, Space-Rock, Kraut-Rock, Psychedelia, Garage, Folk-Psych, Ambient, Rave - and everypoint inbetween. We also run our own label, dedicated to releasing new progressive/psychedelic and underground music by new artists; and a Porcupine Tree information service. Credit cards accepted, but there is a 5% surcharge. Order turn-round is usually 24 to 48 hours, and goods are dispatched the same day payment is received. Double CD "Pick Mix" label sampler available for £5 UK, £6 Europe, £7 (or $12 US Cash) elsewhere. Cheques/PO's payable to "Delerium Records". ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Diffusion I Media ::Address:: 4487 Rue Adam, Montreal (QC), Canada H1V 1T9 ::Comments:: Carry some Canadian emusic indie artists like Michel Redolfi, Bernard Parmaging and others. Only accept US postal MO, IMO or check drawn on a Canadian bank. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Discipline Global Mobile ::Address:: PO Box 1533, Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP5 5ER ::Fax:: (+44) (01722) 781042 ::Fax:: (+44) (01722) 780165 ::Email:: DGM AT disciplinegm.demon.co.uk ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.discipline.co.uk/> ::Comments:: Official outlet for King Crimson/Robert Fripp projects in the UK as part of Fripp's new distributed distribution project. They now take credit card orders by email for which they need your full name (as apearing on the card), full postal address, card number and card expiry date. You can also order by credit card from the World Wide Web page given above. A very nice Web site now with lots of information on DGM artists, full ordering facility, news etc. Well worth looking at. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: G.A.S. - Gong Appreciation Society ::Address:: PO Box 871, Glastonbury, Somerset, BA6 9FE, UK ::Comments:: GAS in the UK carries a number of tapes of rare Gong and Gong related folks, LPs, CDs, tshirts, posters, lyrics, newsletters, tour info and other goodies. Also see the US GAS listing above. As of 1990, GAS Membership costs 8 pounds per year. You receive atape of unreleased material, a discount of 10% on anything ordered, and quarterly newsletters to which you are welcome to contribute. I suspect rates may have changed. I'd recommend sending an IRC asking for more info. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Electronic Dreams ::Address:: c/o Clive Littlewood, Silverton Villa, Higher Bugle, St. Austell, Cornwall, PL26 8PY, UK ::Phone:: +44 (01726) 850232 ::Fax:: +44 (01726) 69135 ::Comments:: Phone contact should ask for "Cleve" and aim to phone between 5.30 and 6.30pm. Electronic Dreams is a label and outlet for new electronic music. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Eventyr Record ::Address:: PO Box 12319 - 00135, Rome, Italy ::Phone:: +39-6-3326 2264 ::Fax:: ::Email:: eventyr AT farm-it.com+39-6-3326 2654 ::Comments:: Mail order home of the Progland label. Also carries things from the following labels: Seventh, Ageness, Ciclo, Briskeby, Kalemegdan, WMMS, Mezzo Disctribution, Progressive Rock Worldwide, Vinyl Top and Ars Mundi. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: GFT ::Address:: 33a Tolworth Park Road, Tolworth, Surrey, KT6 7RL ::Phone:: +44 (0181) 339 9965 (Monday to Friday answerphone at weekends) ::Fax:: +44 (0181) 399 0070 ::Email:: info AT gft-cyclops.co.uk ::Email:: sales AT gft-cyclops.co.uk ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.gft-cyclops.co.uk> ::Comments:: Good reputation. Run by Malcolm Parker who is really friendly on the phone and very helpful generally. In addition to being a pleasant place to order from, their prices are superb (modulo the UK!) ... I have not seen a cheaper place in the UK. Their catalogue has a good range, nothing too esoteric, plus special sections devoted to Canterbury, `Head' music etc. P and P rates are very good indeed and they seem to send orders of 3+ CDs recorded delivery. Very quickly too ... I often get next-day service even if I ring in the afternoon! They have a special offers list that includes currently favoured material that's offered at an all-in rate which includes P and P. They also send out an update with end-of-line items. A very good mail order outlet. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Tim Holden ::Address:: 139 Hawkfield Crescent NW, Calgary, Canada T3G 1Z4 ::Phone:: (403) 241-9073 (5-9 PM PST) ::Comments:: Tim is a guy who deals mainly in used LPs and works shows in his area, he's got good contacts with a lot of other dealers collectors in his area, and seems to have no trouble finding rare and out-of-print stuff if you give him a little time. He found me 6 o/p albums by Maneige over the course of the last year, and found the whole FM catalog for a friend of mine, including the rare first album "Headroom", all for very reasonable prices. His service is extremely good, turn-around-time is quick, and he's a really friendly chap to talk with on the phone. Recommended for o/p stuff. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Mike Lloyd Music Mail Order ::Address:: 14-20 Brunswick Street, Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent, ST1 1DR, UK ::Phone:: (01782) 269012 ::Comments:: Formerly known as Lotus Records, these guys have specialized catalogs for Canterbury, Zeuhl (Magma), and other stuff. I've only ordered from them once, but I got both Paga CDs as well as the 2CD version of Magma Live. These three discs are nearly impossible to get in the US, but I called Mike Lloyd's and got them with no problem. Shipping did take about a month, but it was well worth the wait. When you call, ask for Andy or Clarey, as they handle the mail order division. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Mirage ::Address:: 612 Southmead Road, Filton, Bristol, BS12 7RF, UK ::Comments:: Last I checked (several years ago) this was a one man operation, Martin K Reed. He has a decent variety of British indie electronic musicians like Ian Boddy, Steve Frost and Mark Shreeve. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Musea ::Address:: 68 La Tinchotte, 57117 Retonfey, France ::Fax:: (33) 87366473 ::Email:: musea AT id-net.fr ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.id-net.fr/musea/> ::Comments:: Musea is a label with over 200 productions to its name including many prestigious groups such as Minimum Vital, Atoll, and Pulsar. The Musea catalog has a thousand titles including independent productions from all over the world as well as imports from Japan, Brazil, Korea, Italy, Germany, Poland, etc.. The label also publishes the French-language Musea magazine. Musea take credit card orders by email and aim for a 3 to 5 day turn around. They have an excellent Web catalogue and ordering service. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: The Music Specialists ::Address:: 50 Raffles Place, #03-011 Shell Tower, Singapore 0104 ::Phone:: (065) 734-3775 ::Fax:: (065) 224-2785 ::Comments:: Carries a lot of live and bootleg CDs. Similar to the CD Connection in Germany, but supposedly more reliable per one friend who has used both. They'll send lists for $2. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Normal Mail Order ::Address:: Bonner Talweg 276, 5300 Bonn 1, Germany ::Phone:: 228-22 06 55 ::Fax:: 228-22 16 56 ::Comments:: Excellent selection of bands on tiny labels. Lots of really obscure punk, Australian, New Zealand and German bands. They are very prompt at answering fax enquiries and will probably mail you a catalogue for free. They are also capable of locating out of date obscure vinyl and CD's. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Ohrwaschl ::Address:: Papenheim str. 11, 80335, Munich, Germany ::Fax:: 089 5504112 ::Email:: ohrwaschl AT t-online.de ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.c-lab.de/~rms/ff/ohrwaschl.html> ::Comments:: The famous Krautrock label's mail order outlet. They specialise in, surprisingly, Krautrock, 70s progressive and world-music. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Orage Rock Progressif Enr. ::Address:: C.P. 58058 Québec, Québec, Canada, G2B 5H4 ::Phone:: (418) 847-1116 ::Comments:: This is a very convenient source for Canadian prog. rock fans, with reasonable prices (in Canadian dollars). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Store:: Pan y Musica ::Address:: C/ Ros de Olano 12, 08012, Barcelona, Spain ::Phone:: (93) 237-6568 ::Fax:: (93) 415-0219 ::Email:: pany AT nexus.es ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.thesaurus.net/panymusica/> ::Comments:: Pan Y Musica's online mail order site. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Pastel Blue ::Email:: Mike AT pastel.demon.co.uk ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/> ::Comments:: Here is some of the blurb you get when you send the body "help" to the above email adress: Pastel Blue is a mail order CD and video shop, located in England. At the last count we had 35000 CDs, 3500 CD singles, 4200 videos and 900 games in our database, which you can search by email using commands described below. We accept orders by email and payment by cash, cheque or credit card, and can export to any country. Large collection (incl. > 100.000 american import cd's), good prices and shipping rates, reliable, but quite slow (they don't have anything in stock). On their list there's p.e. Anglagard, Brand X, Happy the Man, Gryphon, National Health, Yezda Urfa, ... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Store:: Philippe Collignon ::Address:: 6 Avenue Du Site, 1200 Brussels, Belgium ::Phone:: 2-7725680 (10am ro 10pm) ::Fax:: 2-7711222 ::Comments:: This guy is one to best places to head for that really rare LP you can't find (especially European). He's expensive, certainly, but has the largest stock (and catalogues) of rare and wonderful vinyl I've come across. Covers all rock from the mid-60s on, but with a slight emphasis on psych and prog. He also does catalogues of CD issues. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Store:: Piccadilly Records ::Address:: 5/7 Brown Street, Manchester, M2 1DA, UK ::Phone:: +44 (0161) 839 8008 ::Comments:: Not actually visited this outlet but I have had things bought for me from there. Said things were quite obscure and had hand-written stickers giving details of genre and links to other artists which impressed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Possible Productions ::Address:: Avenue Sana Fe 3044-1, 1425 Capital Federal, Buenos Aires, Argentina ::Fax:: 010-54-1-8211372 ::Comments:: "Official" outlet for King Crimson/Robert Fripp projects in South America. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Recrec Laden+Mail ::Address:: Rotwandstr 64, 8004, Zurich, Switzerland ::Phone:: +41-1 - 291 46 60 ::Fax:: +41-1 - 291 46 62 ::Comments:: The RecRec label has lots of quirky European releases like Fred Frith, Bruniferd, Nimal and so on. They run a respectable shop front and, from the same address, a mail order service. Obviously they have all the RecRec releases in stock, but they have a generally good selection. Their catalogue is not free. It's a paperback about an inch thick and full of amusing opinions. They are probably only amusing if you can read German. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: RéR Megacorp ::Address:: 79 Beulah Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey, CR7 8JG, UK ::Phone:: +44 (0181) 771 1063 ::Fax:: +44 (0181) 771 3138 ::Email:: jf23 AT dial.pipex.com ::Comments:: Label/business set up by central RIO musician/composer Chris Cutler in 1978 that's still going strong. The RéR label covers a huge diversity of musics from all over the world. What the label covers and what the mail-order side stocks is decided purely on Cutler's perception of musical merit. It therefore doesn't "carry labels" as such. Issues a catalogue with frequent updates. There is a lot of obscure and fantastic music in the RéR catalogue ... highly recommended that you take a look at it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Sonic Bilby ::Address:: PO Box 884, Mt Waverly, Vic, 3149, Australia ::Email:: sonique AT mail.pcmicro.com.au ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/sb> ::Comments:: My mail order business was formed with the aim of promoting and distributing international progressive, psychedelic, and similar recording artists in Australia for the lowest possible price. Undertake promotion, distribution etc. of music in addition to maintaining a mail order catalogue. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Stanislav Hapla ::Address:: Jungmannova 7/692, 736 01 Havirov-Mesto, Czechoslovakia ::Comments:: A possible source for East European CD releases. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Super Records M.B. s.r.l ::Address:: Centro Commerciale S. Maria Novella, Firenze, 50123, Italy ::Phone:: +39-55-2349526 / +39-55-287592 ::Fax:: +39-55-2349527 ::Email:: superecords AT superecords.com ::WWW:: <URL:http://www.superecords.com> ::Comments:: Alternative music store: from vinyl rarities to new releases, collector's item, records auction sales, import/export from all over the world. Credit card on line payment. Progressive rock, Canterbury rock, Beat Psychedelia, Prog-metal, Kraut rock, Hard Heavy, Death Black, NWOBHM,... All the vinyl rarities that you think you'd lost, on line sale. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Taxim Records ::Address:: Postfach 10 11 43, 2900 Bremen 1, Germany ::Comments:: I originally got referred to Taxim when I wrote directly to Line Records looking for a distributor for their product. I've ordered from them a bunch of times and have always had very good luck (they accept major credit cards as well, which simplifies things a lot when ordering from overseas). They apparently no longer carry the entire Line label and as such I've had difficulty finding things in their catalog that I couldn't find from a domestic distributor, so I haven't ordered anything in a year or so. Prices are very good. Catalog is a glossy mag, all in german. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Terrapin Trucking Company ::Address:: 2 Park Road, Crouch End, London, N8 8TD, UK ::Phone:: (0181) 342-8851 ::Fax:: (0181) 341-5174 ::Comments:: I regularly fax orders to them using my Mastercard - if they don't have it they don't charge for it! Shipping to America costs about $3.00 for the first disc and $1.50 for each subsequent one. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Ultima Thule ::Address:: 1 Conduit Street, Leicester, LE2 0JN, UK ::Phone:: +44 (0116) 2854545 ::Fax:: +44 (0116) 2854555 ::WWW:: <URL:http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ultimathule-audion> ::Email:: ultimathule-audion AT ukonline.co.uk ::Comments:: Ultima Thule is a store and mailorder business affiliated with Audion Magazine and thus run by two extremely knowledgeable gentlemen. Large A4 catalogue every year with a great deal in it. They send out update lists regularly to active customers. You need to subscribe (not expensive) to these if you are not an active customer. A superb selection, covering the whole range of progressive and new music. A little expensive compared with other UK outlets. They take just about any form of payment and offer various mail schemes including listen-and-return if you do not like it and all of this internationally. If you live in the UK, next day delivery is the norm. I often order by phone in the afternoon and receive goods the next morning. Very highly recommended indeed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Vinyl-Virus ::Address:: P.O. Box 1164, 7526 U-Weiher, Germany ::Comments:: Supposedly a source of bootlegs - I saw the address in a post to rec.music.gdead where someone was asking for any more info on this place. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ::Name:: Voiceprint ::Address:: P.O. Box 5, Derwentside, County Durham, UK, DH9 7HR ::Phone:: (0191) 512 1103 ::Email:: Rob AT vprint.demon.co.uk ::Comments:: Mainly new Canterbury-related releases. Including stuff by Daevid Allen, Robert Wyatt, Jakko Jakszyk and Rick Biddulph. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Frederic Dannen quote at the top of this file is from a very interesting book about the music industry and the "Powers broker and fast money inside the music business" and the greed and ambition and occasional mob and other illegal connections of the industry. It's pretty ugly stuff and worth reading for a better understanding of why the artist is often the victim of the industry. - Malcolm Humes -------------------- This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments, questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent work.--------------------