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********************************************************************* Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), part 1 of 2 for newsgroup rec.music.dylan Please e-mail corrections and suggestions to: howells@bigfoot.com ********************************************************************* Copyright 1994, 1995 Adam K. Powers This electronic document may be copied and distributed freely, provided that this notice remains intact. CONTENTS: Part 1 - What is available on Internet? (this article): 0. What has been changed since the previous posting of the FAQ? 1. Who is Bob Dylan? 2. What is rec.music.dylan? 3. Are you certain your e-mail address works? 4. Is there a rec.music.dylan etiquette? 5. How do I access rec.music.dylan? 6. Glossary of terms and acronyms common to this newsgroup. 7. Is there a Bob Dylan discography available online, or some way to order Dylan CDs via Internet? 8. Where can I find lyrics, tablature and other Bob Dylan information via Internet? 9. Is there some way that I can get lists of Bob Dylan concert tapes and unreleased recordings from past years? 10. When and where will Bob Dylan be performing next? 11. What is EDLIS? 12. What if I want to talk about Dylan on-line at all hours? Part 2 - Where else can I get information, off-line? (next article): 1. Where can I buy Bob Dylan collectors' items? 2. What books about Dylan's life and music are available? a. Bob Dylan biographies b. Studies of Dylan as a performer, lyricist, etc. c. Reference books 3. Are there magazines about Dylan to which I could subscribe? 4. I just read an article about Bob Dylan in my newspaper... 5. What are bootlegs, and how do I find them? 6. Has Bob Dylan appeared in any movies or film documentaries? 7. Has anybody ever sent away for the limited edition notes offered in the "Under the Red Sky" album? 8. Who really wrote "Blowin' In the Wind"? Was it Bob Dylan or Lorre Wyatt? 9. Why does Dylan laugh at the beginning of "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream"? 10. What is the Gregory Peck movie Dylan's talking about in "Brownsville Girl"? ********************************************************************* 0. What has been changed since the previous update of the FAQ (17 January 2000)? ============================================================== Part 1: ------- o Updated obsolete references to Dejanews - now Google Groups o Updated information about Bob Dylan's official US discography o Updated information about lyric sites Part 2: ------- o Updated book section in part 2. Added several new books and updated others. o Added question and answer about Al Santos, Dylan's stage manager who gives the standard introduction. ------------------------------ 1. Who is Bob Dylan? ==================== Bob Dylan is a singer, a guitar player, a song writer and a recording artist. Born Robert Allen Zimmerman in Duluth Minnesota in 1941, his earliest circulating recordings date from 1958 and his first commercial release was in 1962. Forty-odd albums and many hundreds of concerts later, Dylan continues to write, record and perform. For more information see: http://expectingrain.com/dok/who/d/dylanbob.html 2. What is rec.music.dylan? =========================== Welcome! This Usenet newsgroup is devoted to the discussion of Bob Dylan, his music, and things Dylan-related. We welcome your constructive comments on nearly any issue, even if it's only tangentially associated with Bob Dylan. There is no official Dylan fan club, so small packs of Dylan fans band together to stay informed and carry on general discussion. This particular Usenet newsgroup was founded July 31, 1989 by Tom Buckley. Sometimes it seems that all we're interested in are upcoming tour dates and clarification of fact regarding old recordings, but there is often very interesting discussion of Dylan's lyrics themselves, a reason that no doubt many of you read this newsgroup. If you don't see the sort of discussion you want, you're encouraged to bring it up yourself! Many people criticise the content and tenor of postings on rec.music.dylan but few praise those they like. If you see a posting which is just what you like to see why not e-mail the poster privately and say so. Many good posters cease contributing because they are not getting any feedback. The way to ensure rec.music.dylan is to your liking is to encourage postings you like and to contribute yourself! 3. Are you certain your e-mail address works? ============================================= Most new contributors who complain no one has answered their queries turn out to have displayed an incorrect e-mail address in their postings. This is so common it is very unlikely a correspondent answering your query will do anything once they see that mail to you bounces back as 'user unknown'. One of the best ways to test your address is to send mail to the "robot" at bouncer@nic.near.net. You should be sent two replies. If this does not work then try posting to a test newsgroup (eg. alt.test) or contact the postmaster at your site for help. 4. Is there a rec.music.dylan etiquette? ======================================== You should already be familiar with Usenet etiquette. If not, the newsgroups to read are news.newusers.questions and news.announce.newusers. A particularly useful document is "Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette" by Mark Moraes <netannounce@deshaw.com>, stored at rtfm.mit.edu in a document called "part1" in the directory /pub/usenet/news.answers/usenet/emily-postnews/ As with all newsgroups, the very best recommendation is for you to sit back and read for a while before you make your first posting. That way you can get a proper feel for the newsgroup. Then you will see which postings you think are valuable and which are wasting space or preventing good discussion. rec.music.dylan is not moderated, so within reason anything goes. However, certain types of postings are generally frowned upon. Here follows some guidance: o Tirades against other readers of the newsgroup for their opinions are not welcome. o Failure to edit subject heading when replying via the main rec.music.dylan digest. Please ensure you edit the subject line when posting a Followup-To: Anyone seeing a posting headed: SUBJECT: Re: HWY61-L Digest - 5 Mar 1999 is likely to choose to ignore it altogether. o Posting contact information for bootleg dealers. From time to time someone posts a request for contact details of bootleg dealers. Answers to these questions should be sent by private e-mail only. To post full details to the very public forum of rec.music.dylan is to put the dealers at risk. This may once have seemed an hysterical over-reaction to the real situation, but these days dealers don't just lose their stock and face prosecution, in several countries dealers have gone to prison. Is it not best to avoid Bob Dylan's work being the most likely target when those greedy copyright lawyers finally hit the Internet in force? We all know Bob Dylan always says yes when his lawyers ask him if they should proceed, be it a computer company, a transit authority, or a ... o Posting your full tape/CD trade listings. Setting up tape trades is best conducted via e-mail wherever possible. o Unsolicited trade requests are generally frowned upon, and the recipients of such requests should not feel guilty about saying no or ignoring them. A typical situation is when a poster indicates that he or she has access to or is looking for a certain tape. It is considered bad form to send email or post to the group a trade request or "me too" request. Unless you know the person, you will not likely get a response. Likewise, the recipient of such a request should not feel obligated to trade with everyone who asks for a copy. o Questions to the group should be clearly indicated as questions in the subject line to avoid confusing those who are looking for new information. For instance, a subject header of "New Album" is likely to mislead those reading your post into expecting to find some news about a new album. Instead, it is better to ask the question "Is There a New Album?". o To make sure you're not asking a question that has already been recently answered, or raising yet again a subject that has been extensively discussed, there are two ways of finding out what's gone on before on rec.music.dylan. You may find the answer to your question without having to wait, and at the same time think of new questions to ask or points to raise that haven't already been discussed by the newsgroup. (1) Google Groups (formerly Deja News) has archives of all posts made to Usenet newsgroups. Go to http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search Enter "rec.music.dylan" as the newsgroup name in the Newsgroup: box and your topic, e.g. "thin man" in the subject field. The search results will be displayed. You simply browse through the posts. If you want to limit your search still further, e.g. to see how many posts to rec.music.dylan about Thin Man have been made by Ed Ricardo, you can also enter his name in the Author: box! (2) EDLIS (see section 10 of Part 1 of this FAQ) keeps details of frequently-raised subjects or threads on rec.music.dylan, such as "Who is the 13th/15th Century poet mentioned in "Tangled Up In Blue"?". Go to http://www.edlis.org/twice and look through the archived threads. For example, http://www.edlis.org/twice/mr_jones is another way of finding all those Thin Man discussions! o Pictures, sounds and other binaries should never be posted to rec.music.dylan. To share your binary most easily, use a web page and post the reference URL address to rec.music.dylan. If web space is not available, ask on rec.music.dylan for help finding some or ask prison.guard@edlis.org If this fails, or you prefer to post to a newsgroup, post your binary to an appropriate alt.binaries.* group and send the article IDs and subject lines to rec.music.dylan as a helpful pointer. Rec.music.dylan is a text-only newsgroup, where a half-megabyte binary can cause serious problems. Not everyone is in a school setting or has free local telephone calls. In many parts of the world the telephone connection is paid for by usage and in some the computer account is paid for by volume! Don't make yourself look thoughtless by posting huge binaries. o Key questions to ask of yourself before sending your new posting: 1. Has this been discussed before? (Read the FAQ, follow up any leads, and visit www.edlis.org/twice) 2. Can I delete more of the quoted text of the message to which I am replying, while still achieving the same result? (The less quoted the better, because almost everyone has seen the original article, and it's still freely available to those who haven't) 3. If I waited 24 hours, would I still want to post this? (Especially relevant for posts initiated in anger) 4. Is this potentially of interest to many people, or would it be better sent via private e-mail to one person? 5. Is this related to Bob Dylan? 6. Does my subject line reflect the content of my posting? 5. How do I access rec.music.dylan? =================================== There are two main ways in which to access rec.music.dylan: a. Usenet news 1. Contact your Internet provider for instructions on how to access Usenet locally, and the newsgroup "rec.music.dylan". 2. "DejaNews" (now Google) provides a reading and posting service. Refer to the Google posting FAQ for complete information: http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/posting_faq.html 3. Read rec.music.dylan via the World Wide Web. Newsguy (formerly Zippo) provides access to rec.music.dylan at: http://www.newsguy.com/news.htm To use this service properly please note that when posting via Newsguy you need to include in the "From" box your full e-mail address. This service used to be free, but it seems that Newsguy now wants to charge a fee. 4. If Usenet is not available at your Internet site, try joining a 'freenet' and using their facilities. b. rec.music.dylan Digests Obviously rec.music.dylan is a Usenet newsgroup and is best read with newsgroup reading software like Agent, tin, trn, or the like. Then you have full use of threaded subjects and most importantly KILL files so you can tailor what you see and what you read exactly to your tastes. Seeing the whole of rec.music.dylan without any KILL file would put any normal human being off computers for life! If you have no Usenet news reading software you might have a Web browser and then you can read Usenet news. Netscape, Explorer, Opera, lynx or the like are possible ones to try. Look for some header like News or the like in the pull down menus... http://home.netvigator.com/~artyeung/free/zenews.htm gives information on free public Usenet news servers at which to point your software... You need a newsfeed if using your own software. Also you might wish to look at: http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/deja_announcement.html If you wanted a commercial service you can pay to join http://sub.newsguy.com/nscribe.htm You don't need anything more than e-mail to post to rec.music.dylan, just e-mail your posting to one of the following: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk with header Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan or rec.music.dylan@pubnews.demon.co.uk rec.music.dylan@dispatch.demon.co.uk rec.music.dylan@crs4gw.crs4.it rec.music.dylan@berlioz.crs4.it rec.music.dylan@magus.dgsys.com rec.music.dylan@myriad.alias.net (For an updated list send e-mail to mg5n+remailers@andrew.cmu.edu) But if you have no News reading software and no access to the World Wide Web or to telnet, then your best bet may be an e-mail digest! For many years there have been other specialised digests but they have tended to be amateur and not public. EDLIS has decided to make its own main digest better known, it has always been open to all but not all knew about it! :-) It is a feed for those who cannot take the time to sift through the total madness of rec.music.dylan more widely available. It is called b0b. To subcribe send subscribe b0b-List your@email.address in the body of your e-mail to listserv@edlis.org b0b = b zero b NOT b oh b. Anyone who wishes to can subscribe to b0b No one can post to it. Subscribers receive about 2% of rec.music.dylan postings. No spam. No insanity unless Bob related. No religious wackiness unless Bob related. No insults. No negative posts on any subject, including Bob. Sister principle. If this does not suit you just say. We will help you set up a feed that suits your own tastes. So if no one can post how do you post? You post well to rec.music.dylan. Simple as that. Many fine postings will not be included. Setlists for example. XREFs. And so on. These can easily be seen on rec.music.dylan, and elsewhere. For example setlists are on http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/dates.html b0b is lean. Reading it will give you one person's view of the top two percent of rec.music.dylan. You can Followup-To: any post by posting to rec.music.dylan. And you may find it causes you to turn to the complete rec.music.dylan to follow the occasional thread in its complete form, or to read all the postings there. When you have the time. Followup-To:s should carefully cut and paste the subject header, adding a Re: where appropriate. The purpose is to attract high quality posting, often well thought out and sometimes researched in detail. And to attract readers who would never read rec.music.dylan as they won't take the time, to read it, or to learn to tailor it to manageable size with a vicious KILL file. If you like Bob Dylan but only want to read about him for few minutes a week, then b0b may suit you. If you want to read about Bob Dylan 24 hours a day, then you'll prefer the original rec.music.dylan, the Usenet NewsGroup. 6. Glossary of terms and acronyms common to this newsgroup. =========================================================== All areas of knowledge develop jargon and acronyms which inevitably serve to keep outsiders out and to confuse newcomers. Medical doctors complicate the simplest things with needlessly difficult terms and abbreviations, computer experts often make the easy inaccessible to newcomers with obscure terms and abbreviations by trying to 'simplify' communications, management consultants... Well, you get the picture. People with a serious and debilitating Dylan habit can also develop these tendencies. Watch for the following obscure terms... #Dylan = The name of the Dylan channel on irc. BoB = Blonde on Blonde [1966] [not a typo for "Bob"!] b0b = the 2% cream digest of rec.music.dylan BotT = Blood on the Tracks [1974] BIABH = Bringing It All Back Home [1965] boot = bootleg bootleg = circulating copy of officially unreleased material in any form. The term is probably derived from 'bootleg' liquor, which was sometimes smuggled in bottles strapped to one's leg during Prohibition in the United States, 1918-1933. Bootleg Series = The Bootleg Series 1961-1991, Rare and Unreleased, Volumes 1-3 [1991] - not to be confused with 'bootleg' above, this is an official release that reveals many songs and performances from throughout Dylan's career that were previously available only on bootleg media. The liner notes of this boxed set mention that further volumes would be released, but no reliable source has been able to determine if and when this might actually happen... BTW = By the way... EDLIS = Exchange of Dylan Lyrics - Internet Service GAIBTY = Good As I Been To You [1992] H61R = Highway 61 Revisited [1965] IMO = In my opinion... IMHO = In my humble opinion... ISO = In Search Of irc = Internet Relay Chat, an international live real-time conferencing system with a channel called #Dylan. JWH = John Wesley Harding [1967] Some people say this album (and its title track) were mis-named after outlaw John Wesley Hardin. Dylan's song has very little to do with the story of the real Hardin; instead, it's basically just a spin-off of Woody Guthrie's "Pretty Boy Floyd." Some Dylan fans note the religious bent of this album and claim that the initials 'JWH' really refer to the Judeo-Christian deity... Krogsgaard = Krogsgaard's 1991 reference book, Positively Bob Dylan [listed in question 2c of part 2]. A Krogsgaard number would be in a form such as [7/201]. This refers to item seven in the Krogsgaard listing for event 201. Badly addicted rec.music.dylan readers can be told such a number and then immediately sing the relevant item without reference to the Krogsgaard book itself! newbie = Sometimes derogatory term for a newcomer to the Internet. Usually spotted by the newcomer's tendency to post entire trade lists to the net or to respond to a thread with a single "me too". :-) Newbies are also susceptible to trolls (see below for an explanation of a "troll"). Olof = Olof Bjorner. Often you might come across references to "Olof's Chronicles" or encounter the phrase "according to Olof...". This is in reference to Olof Bjorner, who has kindly made available for free an excellent series of posts to rec.music.dylan covering each and every year in the career of Bob Dylan. Olof's Chronicles provide a quick point of reference on just about every aspect of the life and times of Dylan. Olof's Chronicles can be found at http://www.users.wineasy.se/olof.bjorner. pirate : an illegal copy of officially released material. counterfeit : an illegal copy of officially released material made to be mistaken for an original release. RAH = Royal Albert Hall. This refers to the famous, but misnamed Royal Albert Hall 1966 bootleg that is now generally believed to be from Manchester 5/17/66. RMD = The Usenet newsgroup rec.music.dylan. Also abbreviated as r.m.d. or just plain rmd. smiley = An unusual punctuation device, presumably employed only by computer-users, which looks like a sideways smiley-face: :-) A smiley usually means that a comment or article has been written in jest, and should be read accordingly. A common variant is ;-) with the 'winking' eye. There are many, many variants on the smiley, and most are used to represent the flairs of spoken language that are often hard to perceive in text. :-( tape tree = A 'pyramid' method of distributing tapes organized by someone with a good or unusual tape that begs to be circulated. That person posts an announcement to the newsgroup, asking people to send e-mail to him to sign up. He collects the names of those interested, and creates a 'tree' such that no one has to make an excessive number of copies, and people with better tape decks make copies for those without, etc. The original tape is the 'seed'. Those who receive copies from the seed and make further copies are 'branches', and those who receive copies from branches but don't copy for anyone else are the 'leaves'. Sometimes a person who makes copies is called a 'parent' and one who receives copies is a 'child'. Each person who receives tapes is expected to send tapes of other events in return to their branch. If blanks are sent in lieu of recorded tapes, the person sending blanks is expected to send double the number of blank tapes to recorded tapes. A less common method is that the person sendng blanks is expected to pay postage for both the tapes that sent and the ones received. If trading with a DAT collector who is supplying you with an analogue cassette, one blank DAT is adequate double compensation should they not want any blank analogue cassettes from you. For more information on tape trees, see the URL http://www.cs.umass.edu/~greene/files/tape-tree-def.txt. Also see http://www.dylantree.com for a guide to CDR trading. TOOM = Time Out Of Mind [1997] troll = A provocative posting made with the intention of generating a reaction, ranging from flames and hate mail to trolls which are intended to spark discussion or controversy. It is best to ignore the foolish ones, and be alert to the clever trolls if you are responding. UTRS = Under The Red Sky [1990] WGW = World Gone Wrong [1993] WWW = World-Wide-Web If you're looking for an acronym and can't find it in the above list, try the acronym server at http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym. 7. Is there a Bob Dylan discography available online, or some way to order Dylan CDs via Internet? ==================================================================== It is beyond the scope of this document to give a true discography for Bob Dylan, but here is a list of the standard U.S. release full- length Bob Dylan albums: Title Released CD Order # ===== ======== ========== Bob Dylan March 1962 CK 8579 The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan May 1963 CK 8786 The Times They Are A-Changin' January 1964 CK 8905 Another Side of Bob Dylan August 1964 CK 8993 Bringing it All Back Home March 1965 CK 9128 Highway 61 Revisited August 1965 CK 9189 Blonde on Blonde May 1966 CK 841 Greatest Hits March 1967# CK 9463 John Wesley Harding December 1967 CK 9604 Nashville Skyline April 1969 CK 9825 Self-Portrait June 1970 C2K 30050 New Morning October 1970 CK 30290 Greatest Hits, Vol. 2 November 1971# C2K 31120 Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid July 1973 CK 32460 Dylan November 1973^ CK 32747 Planet Waves January 1974 CK 37637 Before the Flood June 1974' C2K 37661 Blood on the Tracks January 1975 CK 33235 The Basement Tapes June 1975* C2K 33682 Desire January 1976 CK 33893 Hard Rain September 1976 CK 34349 Street Legal June 1978 CK 35453 At Budokan July 1978'~ C2K 36067 Slow Train Coming August 1979 CK 36120 Saved June 1980 CK 36553 Shot of Love August 1981 CK 37496 Infidels November 1983 CK 38819 Real Live December 1984' CK 39944 Empire Burlesque June 1985 CK 40110 Biograph October 1985# C3K 38830 Knocked Out Loaded August 1986 CK 40439 Down in the Groove May 1988 CK 40957 Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1 October 1988 Warner Bros. 9 25796-1 Dylan and the Dead February 1989' CK 45056 Oh Mercy September 1989 CK 45281 Under the Red Sky September 1990 CK 46794 Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3 October 1990 Warner Bros. 9 26324-1 Bootleg Series Vols. 1-3 March 1991@ C3T 47382 Good As I Been to You October 1992 CK 53200 World Gone Wrong October 1993 CK 57590 Greatest Hits III November 1994# Unplugged April 1995' 478374 2 (European) Time Out of Mind September 1997 CK 68556 Live 1966 October 1998 C2K 65759 The Essential Bob Dylan October 2000# This is NOT intended to be a complete discography by any means. Check the discography file at ftp.cs.pdx.edu for more details on Bob Dylan releases available on compact disc, or refer to the discography on the official Bob Dylan website http://www.bobdylan.com. [see question 5 for help]. Notes: ' Live album # 'Greatest Hits' collection - *most* songs previously released ^ Recorded in 1970, outtakes from Self-Portrait * Recorded in 1967! ~ This is the Japanese release date - U.S. release was December 1978 @ Collection of previously unreleased material spanning 1961-1991... Also of interest are the 30th Anniversary Tribute Concert double-CD set; "Masterpieces", a triple-CD import collection that contains a few songs not available elsewhere on CD; and "Live 1961-2000 - Thirty-nine years of great concert performances" - a Japan-only limited edition release to coincide with Dylan's 2001 tour. To buy CDs over the Internet, the two most popular sites are CDnow.com and Amazon.com. For shops on the Internet selling import CDs, you might try http://www.punkhart.com/dylan/cds.html. There have been several 'best album' polls done on the music newsgroups - the most comprehensive were the 'Usenet Artist Polls' and are available by anonymous FTP from ftp.uwp.edu in /pub/music/uap (many polls done on individual artists, not just Dylan). The Dylan albums most frequently recommended by readers of r.m.d are _Highway 61 Revisited_, _Blonde on Blonde_, _Blood on the Tracks_, and _The Bootleg Series, Vols. 1-3_, although you'll find staunch fans of nearly every album... The Dylan you might like depends more on you than on the opinions of others. You could describe in reasonable detail your musical, political, religious and sexual tastes, post that on rec.music.dylan, and ask for advice... Additional material may be found at the various WWW and FTP archives. 8. Where can I find lyrics, tablature and other Bob Dylan information via Internet? ===================================================================== The official Bob Dylan lyrics on the web are at the official site: http://bobdylan.com/lyrics. There is a nice search function which allows you to find a song even if you remember only one (not too common) word or phrase. There are three archive sites from which information regarding Bob Dylan may be obtained by FTP [If the term "ftp" is meaningless to you then ask a local computer guru to show you what to do...]: ftp.cs.pdx.edu (Portland State University) ftp.uwp.edu (University of Wisconsin, Parkside) ftp.nevada.edu (University of Nevada) The above are not guaranteed to be current, however there is a very nice web site that contains lots of guitar tabs: http://www.uvm.edu/~ksherloc/dylan/ and you might want to check out: http://iris.bsd.uchicago.edu/~jrr/bob.html and the My Back Pages site: http://hem.passagen.se/obrecht/backpages/chords Olof's yearly summaries of Bob Dylan concerts and recordings, plus a number of transcribed interviews, concert/tape reviews, and similar documents are available by anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.pdx.edu, in the directory /pub/dylan, and are maintained by Trent Fisher. This site originated as a replacement to Anthony Kapolka's archives from the early days of rec.music.dylan, but now includes all of Olof's archives and other recent files. Of course you can always visit Olof's own site at http://www.users.wineasy.se/olof.bjorner. Lyrics to a limited number of Bob Dylan songs, plus some guitar tabs and other information by be found by anonymous FTP from ftp.uwp.edu, in pub/music/artists/d/dylan.bob. Guitar tablature to many of Dylan's songs can be found on the World Wide Web at http://www.uvm.edu/~ksherloc/dylan. An anonymous FTP session begins like this - at your prompt, type: ftp ftp.uwp.edu [or whatever site you'll be getting files from] Enter 'anonymous' (without the quotes) when prompted for a login name, give your E-mail address as the password. Use either 'ls' or 'dir' and 'cd' to find your way to the proper directory. There are also a number of Dylan-related World Wide Web (WWW) pages. If you do not know what WWW is then you are best advised to ask a friend or computer technician at your site. You will need appropriate software (known as Web Browsers). Some examples: Netscape, Mosaic and Lynx (a text only version). WWW PAGES DEDICATED TO BOB DYLAN The Web has grown so fast that it's getting harder and harder to keep up with all the new web sites. Rather than attempt to catalog all known Dylan sites, here is a site that has links to all the others: http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/boblink.html ("Boblinks", Bill Pagel) Of special interest is the newly created official website from Sony: http://www.bobdylan.com Plus, if you want to locate more Dylan links than exist on the above site, you can try the following search engines: http://www.yahoo.com http://altavista.digital.com http://www.mckinley.com http://www.lycos.com If you cannot find transcribed music online, you should be able to find music to all the released albums from good music stores and suppliers. The most recommended book source is "Lyrics 1962-1985". The lyrics 'database' on "Highway 61 Interactive" CDROM, released 1995, covers virtually all of the lyrics from this book, plus all albums up to 1995. Many songbooks can also be purchased, for example the book for Good As I Been to You is available from Special Rider Music Sales, 8/9 Frith St., London W1V 5TZ, England. 9. Is there some way that I can get lists of Bob Dylan concert tapes and recordings from past years? ==================================================================== There are various options: a. OLOF BJORNER'S SUMMARIES If you've got a little disk space to spare [approx. 1.5 megabytes], you can download Olof's year-by-year Bob Dylan archive - which lists Dylan's public appearances and recordings, gives handy reference tables of songs played on tour, and even lists recommended tapes by tour! The best part is that it's free for your own personal use. Don't try printing it out unless you've got the time & ribbons - the combined total of all the files would be on the order of 600 pages... How do you get it? http://www.users.wineasy.se/olof.bjorner. b. POSITIVELY BOB DYLAN by MICHAEL KROGSGAARD: (this book is frequently referred to simply as 'Krogsgaard' on this newsgroup). This tome numbers Dylan's circulating performances and lists the songs performed at each and every known circulating Bob Dylan recording through early 1991. There are always gaps and changes as new tapes surface, but this book is essential to the serious collector! It provides a fast, easy reference for identifying tapes and so on. The main disadvantage of such a serious book is that it costs about US$55. Ordering information: Popular Culture Ink, P.O. Box 1839, Ann Arbor, MI 48106. (800) 678-8828 / (313) 761-4300. $55.00 U.S. c. TANGLED UP IN TAPES by GLEN DUNDAS: "Tangled Up In Tapes : a Recording History of Bob Dylan". Paperback - 368 pages 4th edition (April 15, 1999) Glen Dundas; ISBN: 096985692X See <http://www.baynet.net/~gdundas/tuit> for how to order direct from the author. Cost is approximately $45.00. d. THE RECORDING SESSIONS by CLINTON HEYLIN: Bob Dylan: The Recording Sessions [1960-1994]". New York: St. Martin's Press, 1995. ISBN: 0-312-13439-8. Cost is approximately $25.00. e. DYLANBASE: This is a Windows-based computer program by Chris Cooper. Regular updates are planned to strive for accuracy and completeness. Write to: Chis Cooper, 8 Northgate, Whittlesey, Peterborough, PE7 1RA, ENGLAND. 10. When and where will Bob Dylan be performing next? ===================================================== Since official announcements from Dylan's publicity office regarding tour dates are rare, we have to rely on local people to look for advertisements or call ticket agencies and then to inform the rest of us. If you hear of an upcoming concert in your area, please tell us! Set-lists from shows that you have seen recently are also appreciated, even if you don't know the titles of all the songs that were played. Tour dates are usually posted piece-meal to the newsgroup, and sometimes these postings will contain conflicting or confusing information. If your local ticket agency has no knowledge of a concert date that you saw announced here, don't give up hope. Agencies such as TicketMaster frequently do not know about particular shows until a few days before they are authorized to sell tickets for that show. Some concert dates start out as rumors and never materialize, but many rumors do become fact. Be patient. For the most up to date information on current tour dates, visit on a regular basis: http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/dates.html You can also check the official website: http://www.bobdylan.com/live Mail order tickets for American concerts can now be purchased at this site: http://www.bobdylan.com/live/mailorder.html If you know of a concert which is not listed there then please post the information to rec.music.dylan. There are also Dylan hotlines you can ring on the telephone for the latest information on Bob Dylan events: USA: 970-243-8025. The Rolling Tomes Hotline - the operator will ask you to enter the "hotline access number" located in the lower right corner of the back cover of the current Rolling Tomes catalogue. So you must either have seen the catalogue or have contact with someone who has... . A touch-tone telephone is required. The recording is updated at least weekly, more often when news warrants it. John Baldwin maintains a UK-based free telephone information service: If calling within the UK, dial 01707-394678 From overseas: [country code] +44-1707-394678 The EDLIS Tours & Tickets agent <ray@rothley.win-uk.net> compiles all the above info and posts updated tour schedules to rec.music.dylan 11. What is EDLIS? ================== The Exchange Dylan Lyrics - Internet Service is an Internet wide conspiracy to make available Dylan lyrics for the purposes of research and/or private study. Lyrics available are restricted to a reasonable proportion. Any copying to evade purchase is wrong. EDLIS consists of a number of loosely affiliated individuals who have chosen to horde and distribute Bob Dylan information. This service includes, but is not limited to, information regarding: Bob Dylan song lyrics, versions of Bob Dylan songs performed by other artists, bootleg recordings, and tape trees. If you post a request for specific lyrics (or for detailed boot CD information) on rec.music.dylan you might find an EDLIS agent answers your needs magically in your e-mail box. In return, EDLIS is always in need of transcribed lyrics and information on compact discs, old and new. If you are able to type in or scan Dylan lyrics not presently available on the Internet, please do so - the only reason that EDLIS sends you anything is because others have contributed in the past! If you like what EDLIS is doing and wish to help, simply e-mail volunteers@edlis.org Visit the EDLIS home page on the world wide web at http://www.edlis.org Of special interest is the "Thing Twice" EDLIS page, where you might find answers to common questions that have been asked and answered many times over. The URL is http://www.edlis.org/twice 12. What if I want to talk about Dylan on-line at all hours? ============================================================ If no one in the same room as you wants to chat about Dylan 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year you might think you have an insatiable desire. But there is relief! IRC! Internet Relay Chat. On irc there is always an international live real-time Dylan conference - usually in English - waiting for you to join it. Before joining irc, I recommend checking out several sources for info: http://www.doxx.net/html/links.html and http://www.ben2.ucla.edu/~nate/frames/index.html These pages contain several links to different irc resources, including an explanation of the various networks that make up irc. I strongly recommend looking at these sites first if you've never been on irc before. It can save you a lot of headaches later. With that said, you will need a special program to access irc called a client. For UNIX, I recommend ircii, available at ftp://ftp2.undernet.org/irc/clients/unix/. For Mac users, the client of choice seems to be Ircle, available at http://www.xs4all.nl/~ircle/. Windows users should grab a copy of mIRC, available at many different sites around the world including http://pebbles.axi.net/mirc/. Once you have a client installed, log onto a server and type "/join #bobdylan" or "/join #dylan" to join the Bob Dylan chat room. Lets say you join though and find to your dismay that there's no one there? Never fear, just keep looking. Maybe try a different irc network perhaps. I recommend checking out #dylan on efnet. What you type after that will be seen by all the others on that channel. If all is quiet simply wait until the lull ends or learn how to invite others in (/invite), change the topic (/topic) and so on. Many arrange to meet at the channel by prior arrangement through e-mail, setting a time to rendezvous. Bear in mind the time zones - discussion tends to ebb and flow with New Zealanders and Australians starting the day, as they begin to flag Europeans join, and Americans are last to come in, though some #dylan people keep very odd hours indeed. It is important to keep the various irc networks in mind here as well. Telling someone you will meet them on #dylan at 0400 GMT isnt enough. If your friend joins newnet while you log into Dalnet, you wont be able to talk to each other. Unlike email or usenet, irc is real time information more akin to a conversation. Resources can be shared, files can be transferred, and addresses can be swapped. In other words, irc is a tape traders dream come true. If you are looking for that copy of Milwaukee 97 or Des Moines 90, you may just strike gold on irc. It is not uncommon for people to trade unreleased dylan material on irc in mp3 format. (mp3 is a sound compression format that is a much smaller file than a .wav file yet retaining all of the quality) Even if you don't find that tape you're looking for, you might find a future contact. Treat irc like a Paris street cafe. If you want to be certain that stimulating, interesting people are there when you are there, bring them with you. If Bob Dylan is performing in a country you can try to see who is on from that country, such as Japan: /who *.jp And then use /invite to invite in unsuspecting irc-ers and ask them about media coverage, whether they are going to the concerts or know anyone who is, will they be taking a DAT recorder with them, etc etc etc. As with all esoteric computer matters, if the command irc is not available on your computer, simply ask a local computer guru how to ftp and compile what you need. So long as you have full Internet access something should be possible, and you can join in on the Dylan discussion via irc... The standard #dylan teatime in London meeting in irc is daily at: Kangerlussuaq Fairbanks 13:00 Reykjavik 07:00 16:00 Petropavlovsk Trondheim 04:00 St John's 17:00 13:30 Helsinki Charlottetown LONDON 18:00 Hibbing 12:00 16:00 Moscow Irkutsk 10:00 19:00 00:00 Greenwich Paris San Francisco Village 17:00 08:00 11:00 Lisbon Bombay Kyoto 16:00 21:30 01:00 Gallup Monrovia Singapore Honolulu 09:00 16:00 00:00 06:00 Lagos Perth Quito Rio de 17:00 00:00 11:00 Janeiro Harare Adelaide 13:00 18:00 01:30 Santiago Hobart Dunedin 12:00 02:00 04:00 There are also many DylanChat sites available: http://mmc.usiu.edu/cgi-bin/interaction.acgi$/chat/dylan http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/bringingitallbackhomeclub http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/smalltalkatthewall (end part 1 of 2) ********************************************************************* -- John Howells howells@punkhart.com http://www.punkhart.com