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Subject: File of Alt.Magick.Tyagi Rules and Assorted Dogma - FAMTRAD
This article was archived around: 26 Aug 2007 05:31:33 GMT
File of Alt.Magick.Tyagi Rules and Assorted Dogma (FAMTRAD)
"_Student_. His business is to acquire a general intellectual
knowledge of all systems of attainment...."
_Magick_, By A. Crowley, ed. Symonds/Grant;
p. 328, Appendix II
"The vulgar and debased cannot practice this art, neither
such as have no understanding."
_Pau P'u Tzu_, by Ko Hung, quoted within
_The Forge and the Crucible_,
by Mircea Eliade.
alt.magick.tyagi (AMT) is the synthesis of meta-knowledge.
at the nexus of all mystical and magical systems, AMT
functions as a forum for the synthesis of psychological
gold and religious esoterica, purifying the textual
Universal Medicine, a remedy for runaway technology and
rapidly diversifying knowledge systems operating in cross-
fertilization at the branches of metaphysical speculation
and the roots of practicality.
a diffusing specialization may be seen within the academic
community as a whole. constellating gradually increasing
bubble-islands of technical knowledge, cybernetic forums
dissolve under the influence of entropic conflagration,
their products are further and further removed from the
average human being. AMT is a melting pot within which
the quintessentia of human experience may be derived by
the dedicated, flexible and syncretic of mind.
03 Posting Rules
04 Call for Charity
05 Assorted Dogma
this is the regularly posted reference file for the AMT
newsgroup. if you wish to post, you are welcome to do
so provided you keep the following in mind:
articles shall be reposted and X-posted to alt.magick.tyagi
in order to fertilize synthesis and create an educational
archive/consortium for the study of magick, mysticism and
associated subjects of meta-knowledge (the mysteries). it
shall also include derived discussion which grows in
response to such a fertilization and consortium.
alt.magick.tyagi (AMT) is the synthesis of meta-knowledge
in the fields of magick and mysticism within the usenet
internet forum structure:
alt. => alternative trunk
magick. => occult and magical arts
tyagi => monastic and mystical sciences
the newsgroup is a forum designed to fulfill its Charter (01),
an educational mechanism and forum of cross-fertilization of
meta-knowledge within the fields of magick and mysticism.
access to esoteric information to those who diligently seek
it, without restriction, integrating the various disciplines
and weaving a web of vivifying communication amongst a
diversity of global cultures. it is an attempt to utilize
usenet as a thinktank and reference engine.
this group shall be used as a REposting site for articles,
found in the various internet archives, of interest to mages
and mystics, including other newsgroups like alt.lucky.w,
other alt.magick.* newsgroups, alt.pagan.magick,
alt.satanism.*, alt.*.zen, soc.religion.*, talk.religion.*,
and any other religious, magical, mystical or miscellaneous
newsgroup which qualifies.
AMT shall also carry subsequent exchanges of threads which
are of particular interest to esotericists, tied together via
REpost and Xpost so as to ease access to the working, eclectic
this newsgroup shall also function as a place to move very long,
complicated conversations, philosophical exchanges, regarding
magick, mysticism and associated subjects that often annoy regular
readers of the normal alt.magick.*, psychology, mysticism or
religious groups, yet serve the interests of dedicated specialists.
03 Posting Rules
there shall be no restrictions as to *who* is allowed to post
to the group and yet the group's parameters are clearly stated
AMT can be used for this purpose, exposing the commonality
of subjects and patterns within them to the many readers who
will almost certainly prove amateur in all.
overall, post in a manner which serves the Purpose (02) of the
newsgroup. AMT was created to address a specific need. posts
made to it should generally be of three types:
these should be the most common seed fodder. their function
is to make accessible articles from other internet forums
which could be of interest to mages who don't have the time
or incentive to read *every* group which is relevant to their
field. they can also be used to expose the post to newsgroups
which were pertinent but not originally within the header.
Followups to all relevant forums are fruitfully specified.
these should used subtlely to join disparate disciplines
when contributing articles which apply to their intersection
or when a particular post within any newsgroup would likely
be of interest to those whose studies include the subject of
magick or mysticism.
discussion subsequent to posted articles should be less common
and determined by interest and quality of the posts to which
response is given. humor and quips should be minimized, or
utilized to effectively place in contrast the overseriousness
of the author to whom one replies.
for a set of general guidelines, see the alt.magick RULES at:
REposts should be made in something like the following manner:
[a] find a pertinent newsgroup other than AMT;
(if you don't know what's pertinent, don't post,
read alt.magick or alt.consciousness.mysticism
for a month or two first and see how this
compares with AMT)
[b] find an article that is thought-provoking,
well-researched, representative, or otherwise
[c] pretend you are going to 'follow-up' but instead
of leaving the 'Newsgroups:' 'Reply-To:' lines as
you found them, replace the newsgroups with
"alt.magick.tyagi" and any other applicable
newsgroups omitted in the original posting, and
use the address given in the automatic
'response-indicator' ("in article <artcl#snltrs>,
<address> writes:") for both the 'reply-to' field
and for what is called an ATTRIBUTION:
"[from <original newsgroup>: <author's name and address>]";
[d] remove all the 'quote-symbols' from the text that
were applied when you began your follow-up
(usually a left sidebar of '>'; this can be done
with the command: ':%s,>,' in VI) and be sure that
the header fields are accurate (sometimes when I
remove all those >'s I get the first one in the
'References' field also, or in the author's name);
[e] you may also change the Subject: header to include
the author's name -- first init, last name, then
a reasonable subject header with (Was ...) if the
original was ugly.
[f] fill in the 'Followup-to:' with the original groups
if applicable and any others to which you sent it,
targetting the most applicable and being sure also to
include AMT. exclude forums that don't like followups,
such as alt.magick.chaos, or those that don't tend to
like massive Xposting.
04 Call for Charity
contact email@example.com if you have extra time to
volunteer for archival activities, would like to mirror
the Esoteric Archive, and/or have interest in lending
technical expertise to its improvement.
05 Assorted Dogma
alt.magick.tyagi lies fallow or burgeons with ripe cyberfruits
dependent entirely upon the dedication of the few.
through the REposting and Xposting procedure (detailed above)
many specialists within diverse fields of meta-knowledge are
brought together into one forum allowing us to envision our
commonalities. it thus makes possible a networking function
which would otherwise not be possible, whilst the group itself
serves as an outlet for a sometimes verbose and syncretic type
other alt.magick.* newsgroups
by far the bulk of traffic within the alt.magick.* newsgroups
occurs in the original group (alt.magick).
alt.magick.chaos is a forum which often contains posts and
discussion on chaos and chaos magick as understood by its
alt.magick.tantra was started as an alternative to the glutted
alt.magick.sex, and includes posts regarding tantra, taoist
sexual alchemy and sex magick.
alt.magick.order and alt.magick.ethics were created in
frustration at the volume and noise/signal ratio within
alt.magick, and are being utilized to divide up the various
areas of interest that collide in the hub group.
alt.magick.folk and the related alt.pagan.magick are subforums
to the alt.magick and alt.pagan newsgroups which place focus
upon the more religious aspects of magick.
alt.magick.* groups of other types exist, but these do not,
by and large, contain posts relevant to magick.
other related forums
for other newsgroups, elists and other related internet forums,
please see the alt.magick FAQ:
the word 'tyagi' is Sanskrit (East Indian) and can be
literally translated as 'monk' or 'one who renounces (or
sacrifices) all'. in this way the newsgroup name symbolizes
the fusion of magick and mysticism through the combination
of terms, and provides a kind of arena in which writings of
a decidedly esoteric nature may be drawn together, compared,
contrasted and fused into a cybernetic Hieros Gamos.