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======= There are nearly 100 FAQ's available for this group. For a complete listing of these, get the "Complete List of RPD FAQs". This article is posted bimonthly in rec.pets.dogs, and is available via anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu under pub/usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/faq-list, via the Web at http://www.zmall.com/pet_talk/dog-faqs/lists/faq-list.html, or via email by sending your message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with send usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/faq-list in the body of the message. This article is Copyright 1997 by the Author(s) listed below. It may be freely distributed on the Internet in its entirety without alteration provided that this copyright notice is not removed. It may NOT reside at another website (use links, please) other than the URL listed above without the permission of the Author(s). This article may not be sold for profit nor incorporated in other documents without he Author(s)'s permission and is provided "as is" without express or implied warranty. ========== Irish Setters Author Holly Kruse, 2 January 1995 [hkruse@philly.infi.net] Copyright 1995-1997 by Holly Kruse. Revisions * Jul 11 96 * Jun 6 97 _________________________________________________________________ Table of Contents * Table of Contents * Characteristics and Temperament * Frequently Asked Questions * Breed History * Standard * Special Medical Problems * Resources + Rescue (National) + Breed Clubs + Online Resources _________________________________________________________________ Characteristics and Temperament Many observers find Irish Setters to be among the most beautiful of all dog breeds. Their dark red color, profuse feathering, and happy-go-lucky nature make them quite attractive to many dog lovers. However, Irish Setters are not the breed for everyone! They are very energetic dogs who require plenty of exercise, attention and affection. Irish Setters were originally bred to hunt upland game, and they are still proficient hunters. The breed today is essentially split into two varieties: the larger, darker, more heavily-coated dogs who come from conformation bloodlines, and the much smaller, lighter dogs descended from field trial lines, often called "Red Setters." With the institution of AKC Hunting Tests and the Irish Setter Club of America's Versatility Certificate program, many owners of non-field-bred Irish Setters in the United States have been delighted to learn that their dogs still possess a strong hunting instinct. Irish Setters are among the largest of the sporting breeds, with males ideally measuring 27 inches at the withers and weighing about 70 pounds, and females measuring 25 inches at the withers and weighing about 60 pounds. The Irish Setter is characterized by its "brick-on-brick" head and its silky coat, which is short on the body and longer on the chest, ears, backs of legs, tail, and undercarriage, and which ranges in color from chestnut to mahogany. Although its potential is often not fully developed, the Irish Setter is a very versatile breed. Not only are Irish Setters beautiful companions and able hunters, they also possess the ability to excel at competitive obedience, tracking, and agility. There are several Irish Setters with advanced obedience degrees, and many Irish Setters are now pursuing agility titles. _________________________________________________________________ Frequently Asked Questions _"Are Irish Setters high-strung and hyperactive?"_ Irish Setters are extremely active, energetic dogs, as are most sporting breeds. If they do not get adequate exercise and training, they can be difficult to live with. Their reputation as "hyper" dogs seems to have emerged when Irish Setters became extremely popular in the 1970s. The combination of irresponsible breeding without selection for sound temperaments and placement in homes which were not up to the demands of an active, sporting breed undoubtedly contributed to the perception that Irish Setters are "hyper." With the decreased popularity of the breed in the 1980s and 1990s, the quality of the Irish Setter temperaments being produced is uniformly much higher. _"Are Irish Setters stupider than most other breeds?"_ Anyone who has lived with them knows that these dogs are experts at getting their way! Irish Setters present a training challenge because they are stubborn, easily distracted, and quick to bore, but most of them are quite intelligent. It takes a great deal of patience and commitment to train an Irish Setter; however, such training is an absolute necessity, and it usually proves to be fun and rewarding for both dog and owner. Training must start early, and the trainer should keep in mind that most Irish Setters aren't mentally mature until they are at least 2 years old. _"How much grooming does an Irish Setter need?"_ Their long feathering requires quite a bit of attention, otherwise it will quickly become matted. Daily brushing is the MINIMUM Irish Setter grooming requirement. _"Would an Irish Setter make a good guard dog?"_ No. Many Irish Setters will alert you to the presence of strangers on your property, but for the most part they are more likely to happily greet intruders (or to hide behind the sofa) than wrestle the family silver from burglars. _"Are Irish Setters good with children?"_ Yes, though since both Irish Setters and children often have a tendency to play rough, interactions between them should be supervised. _"Since Irish Setters are no longer near the top of the AKC popularity list, are they hard to find?"_ Quality Irish Setters from reputable breeders can be hard to find, so there is usually a wait for a puppy. Also, in some places the demand for older rescue dogs is far greater than the supply. Whether you are dealing with a breeder or a rescue representative, expect to be questioned thoroughly about your expectations and your ability to cope with the breed's maintenance demands. _________________________________________________________________ Breed History As with most of the sporting breeds that developed in the British Isles and Ireland, there is much speculation about the origins of the Irish Setter. The breed's formative years were in the eighteenth century, and the breed was clearly established by 1800. Its ancestry can be traced to a dog known as the setting spaniel, and crosses were undoubtedly made with Pointers, English Setters, Gordon Setters, and other spaniels. Some breed historians have suggested that early crosses were made with Bloodhounds, Irish Water Spaniels, and Irish Terriers, though there is no documentation to support such conjecture. Among setters in Ireland, red and white coloring was dominant well into the nineteenth century; even today many Irish Setters are marked with small areas of white on the chest, neck, or between the toes despite the long-standing official division of Irish Setters and Irish Red and White Setters (not AKC-recognized) into separate breeds. Nineteenth century descriptions of Irish Setters with black or, more rarely, orange coloring or markings point to the probability of cross-breeding with English and Gordon Setters. Modern Irish Setter type can be traced to a British dog of the 1870s named Ch. Palmerston. Palmerston has been described as large for his time -- he weighed 64 pounds and measured 23.5 inches at the shoulder -- with an unusually long and narrow head, heavy bone, and dark red coloring. Because of the impact of the few of Palmerston's daughters who were imported to the United States, there is little doubt that all American Irish Setters can trace their ancestry to Palmerston. During the first half of the twentieth century, there was very little difference in "type" between Irish Setters who competed in field trials and Irish Setters who competed in conformation competition. In recent decades, however, as field trial competitors sought to breed dogs that were competitive against other pointing breeds in field trials, and as conformation-minded breeders produced larger, heavily-coated dogs that were more competitive in the show ring, the breed has split into two distinct types. _________________________________________________________________ Standard The Standard is the physical "blueprint" of the breed. It describes the physical appearance and other desired qualities of the breed otherwise known as type. Some characteristics, such as size, coat quality, and movement, are based on the original (or current) function for the dog. Other characteristics are more cosmetic such as eye color; but taken together they set this breed apart from all others. The Standard describes an ideal representive of the breed. No individual dog is perfect, but the Standard provides an ideal for the breeder to strive towards. To find a copy of the standard, check with the AKC, the national breed club, or a good book on the breed. _________________________________________________________________ Special Medical Problems Irish Setters are generally a hearty breed, often reaching 13 or 14 years of age; still, they are prone to health problems of varying degrees of severity: Epilepsy Epilepsy is present in Irish Setters. The Irish Setter Club of America has recently launched a closed database, managed through the Genetic Disease Control Institute, which will be used to attempt to determine if there is a hereditary component to idiopathic epilepsy in Irish Setters. With seizure disorders, and with all the conditions mentioned here, it is important that Irish Setter puppy buyers ask breeders about the frequency of occurrence of such disorders in the pedigree. Gastric Dilation-Volvulus (GDV) Often also called gastric torsion (or bloat, a misnomer, because in bloat without torsion the stomach does not rotate), GDV afflicts Irish Setters more often than most other breeds. In this condition, the stomach twists and distends, acutely affecting key veins in the abdominal cavity and causing the failure of body systems. It should be noted that while GDV in Irish setters is sometimes accompanied by the classic symptoms of bloat, such as a distended abdomen and unproductive attempts to vomit, these symptoms often are not present, at least not in the earlier stages of GDV. Extreme restlessness is often the only observable symptom. Any Irish setter suspected of being in torsion should receive immediate veterinary attention, and Irish setter owners should not be shy about insisting on x-rays to ascertain a dog's condition. Furthermore, since traditional home methods of relieving bloat (such as passing a stomach tube or releasing trapped gas with a hypodermic needle) are not effective in cases of torsion, Irish setter owners are advised not to waste time trying such remedies when they suspect torsion; getting veterinary attention for dogs in torsion should be the top priority. Precautions should be taken by Irish Setter owners to lessen the likelihood that their dogs develop this acute and life-threatening condition. These precautions include 1) feeding two or more smaller meals per day rather than one large meal, 2) wetting dry food and allowing it to soak before feeding, 3) not allowing vigorous exercise for one hour before and two hours after feeding, 4) elevating food dishes, and 5) using a high quality food that doesn't contain soy. GDV can be quickly fatal, but if caught in time a prodedure called gastropexy, in which the stomach is surgically tacked to the abdominal wall, can be performed. This surgery radically decreases the possibilty of GDV recurrence. Extensive information about GDV can be found on the homepage of Purdue University's College of Veterinary Medicine at http://www.vet.purdue.edu/depts/vad/cae/cgdvweb.htm. Hip dysplasia Also somewhat common in Irish Setters. All breeding stock should be radiographically cleared of hip dysplasia by the Orthopedic Foundation of Animals (or the equivalent national orthopedic registry) at two years of age before being bred. Hypothyroidism Hypothyroidism is fairly common in Irish Setters. Proper diagnosis of low thyroid activity requires a thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) response test in addition to the standard T4 test. Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) PRA, a form of hereditary blindness, was once a serious problem in Irish Setters. Recently, however, a DNA test was made available to determine which Irish Setters are PRA carriers and which are not. In Irish Setters, PRA is a simple recessive and can therefore be eliminated from breeding programs by breeding known non-carriers to known non-carriers. Unlike some other forms of PRA, in Irish Setters the condition has an early onset; combined with the simple recessive nature of its inheritance, the early onset of the disease enabled some Irish Setter breeders to implement an effective, if controversial and not widely adopted, program of test-breeding to eliminate PRA from their breeding programs in the decades before the DNA test became available. Information on the DNA test for PRA (rod-cone dysplasia 1) in Irish Setters is available at http://mendel.berkeley.edu/dogs/diseases/pra/blood.html. Hypertrophic Osteodystrophy (HOD) HOD afflicts some Irish Setter puppies (primarily between four and eight months of age) and is sometimes fatal. Symptoms can include fever, lethargy, swelling of joints, and lameness. Many veterinarians are not experienced in diagnosing and treating this condition, so it is important that puppy owners be aware of HOD's existence. Oversupplementation of puppies and high levels of protein in puppies' diets have been linked to the development of this condition. Spondylosis Elderly Irish Setters often develop spondylosis, an arthritic condition of the vertebrae which decreases mobility. This condition often responds well to treatment with Adequan or its oral forms (such as Cosequin and Glycoflex), and/or acupuncture. _________________________________________________________________ Resources Books, Periodicals, and Articles E. Irving Eldredge and Connie Vanacore, The New Complete Irish Setter, Howell Book House, 1983. (In print) Luz Holvenstot, Irish Setters, T.F.H. Publications, 1979. (In print) William C. Thompson, The New Irish Setter, Howell Book House, 1968. (Out of print) Patricia Gallagher, Irish Setters Today, 1977. (Out of print) Joan McDonald Brearley, This is the Irish Setter, T.F.H. Publications, 1975. (Out of print) Walter Hutchinson, Hutchinson on Setters, Donald R. Hoflin Publishing, 1980 (Out of print) Rowland Johns, Our Friend the Irish Setter, E. P. Dutton & Co., 1933. (Out of print) Irish Setter Club of America Memo to Members. Bi-monthly magazine available to ISCA members. For membership application, contact: Karen Holmes 969 Randy Way Brentwood, CA 94513 510/634-4541 Breeders For the Irish Setter Club of America Breeders Directory and other ISCA pamphlets: Sam MacDonald 10901 Ives Fort Worth, TX 76108 817/246-4342 Rescue (National) Marilee Larson 27371 Whitmor Pioneer, CA 209/295-1666 Fax: 209/295-1656 Breed Clubs Irish Setter Club of America Mrs. Marion Pahy, Corresponding Secretary, 16717 Ledge Falls, San Antonio, TX 78232, 210/494-0389 (Founded 1891) Irish Setter Association of England Mr. W. Bryden, Hill Farmhouse, Church End, Renhold, Bedford, MK41 OLU Belfast and District Irish Setter Club Mr. P. Nolan, 16 Clifton Crescent, Belfast 14 Irish Setter Club of Wales Mr. P. Rowlands, 11 Ffordd Lerry, Wrexham, Clwyd, LL12 8JB Online Resources * Mailing list for Setter owners and fanciers. To join, send SUBSCRIBE SETTERS-L yourfirstname yourlastname to listserv@apple.ease.lsoft.com. This list is open to all setter breeds. * Garland Kimmer's Irish Setter Homepage, at http://help.unc.edu/~kimmer/setter.htm * More information on Irish Setters, particularly Irish Setters in the United Kingdom, is available at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/square/tac61/isetter.htm * The American breed standard is available on the AKC's homepage, http://www.akc.org/irishset.htm _________________________________________________________________ Irish Setter FAQ Holly Kruse, hkruse@philly.infi.net