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Subject: [comp.unix.bsd] NetBSD, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD FAQ (Part 10 of 10)

This article was archived around: 13 Oct 1997 02:00:28 -0500

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Section 9 ("Supported" Software List). 9.0 What GNU software has been tested and is working with Net/2 derived BSD systems for the 386? Just about all of it. 9.1 Has anyone ever gotten news to work? The program 'news' running on 386bsd. Here is a quick summary of the major places to stumble: 1) get bash, gmake, gcc 2.X, cnews, trn (or your favorite reader). 2) Make uucp work. (Read the info files that come with the original distribution for the whole scoop on configuration files.) Ed Note: This step is not needed if you are implementing SLIP, PPP, or are directly connected to a network. 3) Edit all the scripts which come with cnews and replace every occurrence of /bin/sh with /usr/local/bin/bash (or wherever you put it). 4) Build cnews using bash, gmake and gcc 2.x 5) Install cnews in the directories you want it. Some hand-hacking of the install scripts is required (Too long ago to remember the details). 6) Change the permissions on all the scripts from execute only to read-execute for group and other. (On 386bsd, if you can't read a script, you can't execute it). 7) Set up uucp to accept news 8) Post an article and steal it out of the uucp queue before it gets sent. Feed it to your rnews (as user uucp) instead and make sure that it does not bomb out with permission denied or some such. 9) Have fun! Implementing innd is even easier. The configure script that comes with the system has been modified to work more correctly with Net/2 derived BSD systems. The first is that the LINTLIBSTYLE option in config.data needs to be set to NONE, since NetBSD and FreeBSD don't come with lint. With that changed, the system should work right out of the box. If you are running with memory mapped files, you will also need to make the following patch: --- icd.c.orig Tue Feb 7 13:36:50 1995 +++ icd.c Tue Feb 7 14:56:27 1995 @@ -366,7 +366,9 @@ ICDwriteactive() { #if defined(ACT_MMAP) - /* No-op. */ + if (msync(ICDactpointer, 0)) { + syslog(L_ERROR, "msync error on active file: %m"); + } #else 9.1.1 I want to make sure I have every set up right for my news partition. What newfs options do I need to use to get this information stored OK without future problems? There has been a lot of discussion of the years about the default options for newfs. If you have "modern" disks and you created your filesystems with 1.0, or with a pre-9412 -current, then you may want to back them up and then re-create them. u Filesystems created with the current defaults should be much faster. The newfs(8) defaults are equivalent to `-a 8 -d 0 -n 1'. To make you news server software work better, you should increase the number of inodes available, you should include either '-i 512' or '-i 1024' depending on the normal size of the files in the filesystem. News partitions are often the repository for many files which are very small, averaging less than 512 bytes per file. By quadrupling the number of inodes (using -i 512 instead of the default 2048) you make it more likely that you will run out of disk SPACE before you run out of disk INODES. 9.3 Has anyone tried to get Postgres to work? Jim Bachesta and his crew have gotten Postgres 4.2 working in the i386 version of NetBSD 1.0. The netbsd source tree is available from: ftp://charon.amdahl.com:pub/agc/postgres-4.2-src-netbsd-v2.tar.gz The regular postgres distribution is available from: ftp://s2k-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:pub/postgres Get the standard distribution and then overlay the NetBSD source distribution over it for a complete system. There is also work in progress to get Postgres95 working. Check the following URL for more information: ftp://s2k-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/postgres95/postgres95-1.0.tar.gz It works fine on NetBSD/i386 1.1. I've heard that it works fine on the sparc port, too, so there don't seem to be any byte-order funnies in there (although take a look in the www/bugs/p*.html for 14 patches that should be applied to the 1.0 sources - at least one of them deals with order-dependencies when the backend is on a different byte-ordered machine to the client program). Someone mentioned that you need dynamic loading, and so you may be out of luck if you're on one of the more esoteric ports. I'm not sure about this, and would say that pg95 should run fine, albeit with reduced functionality, without dynamic loading - it just means that you can't define C functions for the backend to load at will. However, I haven't tried this. (From memory, the previous v4r2 port didn't have support for dynamic loading, and most of the regression tests ran fine.) 9.4 Has anyone gotten the Java Developers Kit working? There are a couple of ways to go about this. The first is just use either the FreeBSD or Linux version and load up the /emul directory. The second is to load Penguin or Kaffe, both Java replacements. http://coriolan.amicus.com/penguin.html i386 FreeBSD 2.0.5R & 2.1.0R (tested) i386 Linux 1.2.13 (tested) i386 NetBSD 1.1R (untested) i386 Solaris 2.4 (untested) The source for the most recent version of Kaffe can be found at the following location: ftp://ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk/pub/kaffe/kaffe.tgz This version has extensive improvements over version 0.1 (see the README in the distribution), and is now distributed using a Berkeley style license so can be used for both personal and commercial purposes. In addition to Kaffe, there is a Java Bytecode compiler called "Guavac" which works with NetBSD, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD. * Java, Javasoft, and Java Virtual Machine are registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. 9.5 Has anyone ever used any of the BSD systems for a Firewall? In my experience, most of the commercial firewall systems started out as BSD systems. There are several choices when it comes to firewalls for *BSD systems. There is Juniper, a "transparent p[ass through" system that allows non-routable networks to lurk behind the firewall and block traffic from the outside. Another is the TIS Firewall Toolkit. Http://puma.macbsd.com/macbsd.howto/fwtk-faq.html has an excellent set of instructions on using and building a firewall using TIS. There are several other offerings out there; nearly all of them will easily lay on top of an existing BSD installation. After all, BSD was where TCP-IP was invented. 9.6 How about the BSD Song? In a dark dim machine room Cool A/C in my hair Warm smell of silicon Rising up through the air Up ahead in the distance I saw a Solarian(tm) light My kernel grew heavy, and my disk grew slim I had to halt(8) for the night The backup spun in the tape drive I heard a terminal bell And I was thinking to myself This could be BSD or USL Then they started a lawsuit And they showed me the way There were salesmen down the corridor I thought I heard them say Welcome to Berkeley California Such a lovely place Such a lovely place (backgrounded) Such a lovely trace(1) Plenty of jobs at Berkeley California Any time of year Any time of year (backgrounded) You can find one here You can find one here Their code was definitely twisted But they've got the stock market trends They've got a lot of pretty, pretty lawyers That they call friends How they dance in the courtroom See BSDI sweat Some sue to remember Some sue to forget So I called up Kernighan Please bring me ctime(3) He said We haven't had that tm_year since 1969 And still those functions are calling from far away Wake up Jobs in the middle of the night Just to hear them say Welcome to Berkeley California Such a lovely Place Such a lovely Place (backgrounded) Such a lovely trace(1) They're livin' it up suing Berkeley California What a nice surprise What a nice surprise (backgrounded) Bring your alibis Windows NT a dreaming Pink OS on ice And they said We are all just prisoners here Of a marketing device And in the judge's chambers They gathered for the feast They diff(1)'d the source code listings But they can't kill -9 the beast Last thing I remember I was restore(8)'ing | more(1) I had to find the soft link back to the path I was before sleep(3) said the pagedaemon We are programmed to recv(2) You can swap out any time you like But you can never leave(1) [ substitute whirring of disk and tape drives for guitar solo ] Written by David Barr <barr@pop.psu.edu> and Ken Hornstein <kenh@physci.psu.edu> and a little help from Greg Nagy <nagy@cs.psu.edu> and thanks to the lyrics archive at cs.uwp.edu -- Dave Burgess Network Engineer - Nebraska On-Ramp, Inc. *bsd FAQ Maintainer / SysAdmin for the NetBSD system in my spare bedroom "Just because something is stupid doesn't mean there isn't someone that doesn't want to do it...."